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  • Except spirits doesn’t mean tiny physical things, it refers to things outside of the physical that cannot be measured or quantified by definition. If spirit was just their word for biodiversity that would be fine but then we’d be talking about sites being biodiverse and not sacred because we’d have established that sacred isn’t the correct translation. You keep repeating the same baseless justifications for spiritualistic and religious practices to be treated like some kind of science but they aren’t and never will be. They are ritualised behaviours that are successful only because the competing alternatives lead to the collapse of the populations practicing them and would fare less well in alternative environments. We are done here, there is nothing more productive to be gained from you repeating the same misunderstanding of science.




  • This is a bit more than just a language difference and shows just how little you really know or understand the differences between supernatural belief and scientific method.

    Let’s take your example of the observation (not conclusion) that things fall down. Let’s say you have your conclusion that the spirits of the earth always pull things down for reasons. I have the conclusion that it’s because mass attracts mass due to gravity. Based on the one observation we have the same evidence supporting our theory’s so how do we tell them apart? Well if gravity is true we have all kinds of predicted phenomena that should also happen, it also explains why the sun and moon behave as they do. What does the spirits of the earth theory predict… nothing other than things fall down. It’s useless for being able to predict other phenomena, it wouldn’t even predict things would fall down on other planets as they might not have pull things down spirits and we might not even have asked why the spirits pull things down.

    Also, it isn’t “western science” which again betrays some kind of nationalistic agenda on your part. It’s just science and anyone can do it, it doesnt belong to “western” countries.

    As for “supernatural” explaination in western science, you act like every random hypothesis is taken seriously… They aren’t, they are picked apart for lack of predictive power, unless a hypothesis makes hard predictions of how the world would work if it were and weren’t true it’s pointless as it can’t be tested or used in any meaningful way. The “boltzman brain” you mention is just a thought experiment and isn’t even a serious scientific hypothesis. Scientists as a whole know and accept they don’t know everything, otherwise they wouldn’t be wasting time doing science would they?