linux no-systemd minimalism
It doesn’t matter what the question is antiX is the answer.
Apart from antiX in recent years making tremendous strides in being truly systemd free it is more stable than debian, since systemd keeps releasing more and more buggy complexities such as systemd-boot
antiX also has stable/testing/unstable branches, but experience from the past proves that even sid/unstable is a very usable daily work system. Sid is close to arch but +5 architectures x2 32/64
> You can’t avoid IBM/RedHat
Let’s just leave it at that, we can’t avoid code published by them, it is everywhere. Both of those are subject and clear collaborators with agencies of the state that protects their existence.
It is 100s of times better than MS, ok, yes, it is. Still, “we” have a long way to go, away from “them”.
With arch based flavored desktop installers (arco endeavour manjaro …) you get some GBs of stuff that is probably going to ask 1-2GB of upgrades, and then you end up dumping half the crap they came with.
On one you start from bottom up, the rest you start from top towards the ?bottom?.
You only learn when you start with the least needed to boot a system, have net access, and a pkg.mngr.
There is an advantage in arch (and all pacman based distros) that the pkg mgr is friendly and vocal.
Say you want your system to run with vtwm you try and you get many dependencies installed, then try starting it. If it doesn’t start it will tell you what is missing still.
Usually with X is either xorg-xinit or a display manager (avoid) and adding exec vtwm into your ~/.xinitrc gets you going.
A for profit corporation will never produce anything truly free, it is all done in the name of profit
IBM’s systemd Qt Oracle Google Facebook are all multinational corporations.
Nothing BUT free, they are all dictatorships for the people they employ.
Funny you mentioned it, till very recently they needed validation by android or i-phone app, assuming all linux/FOSS programmers had one.
Beyond that anonymity becomes impossible for phone registrations.
Gitlab is NOT free software, and neither is GitTea, but Forgejo IS
codeberg and git.disroot use Forgejo not gitea
https://codeberg.org/api/swagger
Ohhh… github is just git.microsoft
Not MS but IBM, created a front 13y ago called RedHat, financed it with consulting subcontracts installing RHEL,Fedora,Debian everywhere, to steer all Desktop/GUI development to depend on it, and when it all met its goals bought it to create its mass consumed system to compete with MS.
Very few attempt to maintain desktop functionality without systemd today, and upstreamers just quitely conformed to the "market’.
Convenience and pop-whores … it is what capitalism prescribes. Add games, bookmarks on Edge, saved passwords, that people don’t want to change … and this is the disability they develop. Then win gets all borked BSOD and all, and they start the only way they know how, disk, format, new install.
They buy their own prison cells and the camera that monitors them like they live in a reality show.
What did you expect, a social revolution?
BSA ITA French/Swiss PF30 octa/isis I do them all.
I switched gearbox and driveshaft on a heavy van stuck on 20’ incline 5m away from a wall. Early 70s Dodge. Scary getting under there.
I use runit and/or s6 as init and service supevisor, no logind, no dbus, just a window manager. I have one disguised as MSwin, my friend hasn’t noticed in 7y it is not MSw. She says it is as good now as it was the day I installed it.
MS paid technical support is very simple.
- Xyz doesn’t work
- Please insert install disk and reinstall windows.
- But …
- I am sorry but this is the only way we can insure a good working system
If you don’t mind sharing all your private data with multinational corporations and state agencies then you have no better choice than paying MS to provide you with a dummy terminal to their affiliated data-miners.
Stop being elitist, spread Linux without systemd!
I have used labwc (a really close equivalent to openbox) with great excitement with the exception of one thing.
Running a graphic application as a different user within a user’s session is impossible. Even if a different seatd session is active for the 2nd user, wlroots refuses to draw anything as a different user than the one initiating the session.
It is a form of containerization for me that just requires x11
You forgot to mention the glibc/syslog backdoor discovered
… not if you took a blue pill overdose …
DE require tremendous overhead of serv/daemons just to be able to make shortcuts/menu items clickable, I would never use such contraptions on my system.
I use a wm and have no use for polkit, dbus, logind, automount, obfuscated rights elevations and demotions, … all this crap that unnecessarily must run for the sake of aesthetics and MS-win utility.
If I needed icons on my background I would use just a light filemanager, like pcmanfm, but I don’t.
Both plasma and gnome will get zero clicks from me. They are the two black holes sucking free open source software into their m{ac,s}-win core.
I’d be the last person on earth to defend debian or systemd-boot that has turned linux into a garage project, but could it be that you are booting the image in legacy/bios mode and attempt an EFI installation? This is hackish to do since /sys/…/efi… doesn’t exist.
If you insure you are booting in efi mode then it should work out. If not chroot into the installation and follow the procedure of installing the bootloader manually.
@potentiallynotfelix @winety