Since news leaked out 2 days ago that Facebook has approached Mastodon developers and admins - requiring non-disclosure agreements first - the whole microverse (i.e. mastodon / pleroma etc, the micro-blogging part of fedi) has been talking about nothing but that and Facebook’s imminent entry into the fediverse with an as yet not clearly defined entity called Barcelona or p92. This woud be very roughly comparable to Reddit saying they are going to federate with lemmy.
Yet here on lemmy I could only find a relatively small discussion.
https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958
Did the lemmyverse not know or just not care that much?
I think meta is deliberately trying to fly under the radar until it too late. Several fedi communities have signed a ‘pledge’ saying they will actively block meta fedi content from their servers. (Similar to what most are already doing with Truth Social which is just another mastodon instance).
Truth.social was actually never part of the Fediverse. It does use AcitivtyPub, but it doesn’t federate with other instances: https://pocketnow.com/trump-truth-social-network-removes-most-freedom-friendly-features-fediverse/
I’ll be honest, part of the reason I didn’t come to the Fediverse earlier was I knew that Truth Social was “on” Mastodon. That discouraged me from investigating anything about it. When Reddit forced my hand and I looked into it further, I realized that avoiding the whole space because Truth Social ran on it was as absurd as avoiding the Internet because Fox News has a website.
If I’m not mistaken, I think Gab and Parler were also just re-branded ActivityPub Free Software (which sucks, but changing the license to prevent bad actors from using it would make it un-Free and therefore the cure would be worse than the disease). It just goes to show how those hypocrites are happy to claim to be superior in their rugged individualism, but actually just take from others instead of accomplishing anything themselves.
undefined> hypocrites are happy to claim to be superior in their rugged individualism
Few Libertarians would be able to live, let along enjoy living, in Latin America outside of the rich neighborhoods and resorts.
There’s building on what’s already there, then there’s hitting copy and paste…
Pretty much.
Having facebook/meta on the network is not great. But it is also a VERY different mess than truth social/voat. Because those are the kinds of hate that are too extreme even for Zucky to tolerate.
Personally? I don’t know how I feel about this. I do want the idea of there being a standardized underlying protocol. If only because it means migrating away from a company trying to burn itself to the ground is closer to subscribing to a different board than making a new account. And in the Mastodon case, it is potentially just someone migrating their home instance with followers never noticing a difference.
But I also understand that having connections to these social media networks means mods/admins have to deal with all the hell that follows.
I think I still generally err on the side of “let the assholes on” because it makes it that much harder to have a twitter/reddit level of “Well, my timeline is nothing but nazi porn and bestiality but the people I follow are still on here so…”
The thing is because it doesn’t federate, for all intents and purposes it’s simply a Twitter clone that just happens to be based on mastodon
Very interesting. I had no idea truth social used ActivityPub.