Of course, that’s to be expected, with people migrating from Reddit and all, but the title is kind of badly worded.
Feel there’s a lot more argumentative and just kind of… angry users on here. (have you seen Sync fans biting everyone’s asses over saying money should be spent funding instances and not an app?)
Live laugh love Lemmy though :)
I’ve started blocking communities left and right to try and tailor my experience more. Sync related communities are on the list of things I blocked.
I wish as a user I could block entire instances without running my own instance. It would make the blocking efforts much easier.
Ironically Sync can block entire instances.
can also filter keywords
Funny, connect can do that too
I don’t have Android, so it’s a bit of a moot point. But philosophically, it should be supported at the platform level so a user can go between their phone, desktop, browser at work, whatever, and maintain a similar experience when it comes to the content they see (or don’t see).
Exactly, I don’t like locally stored settings because I have many devices and I don’t want to remember to change something on every device every time
And so can kbin
Really? I thought that needed to be implemented on Lemmy’s level. Guess it’s built in to ActivityPub because Mastodon could always do that. Definitely was a needed feature.
You may already be comfortable with another app or the web version of Lemmy, but I recommend ‘Connect for Lemmy’ if you’re looking for instance blocking. It allows you to block instances as a user.
I use my phone, but also the browser on the desktop. It really needs to be a feature of the platform. Relying on instance admins to have the exact same preference for what to federate seems unrealistic.
I’m also on an iPhone. I assume Connect for Lemmy is for Android, as I don’t see it in the App Store. I’m using Memmy currently.
Ah, you’re right, Connect is just for Android. Though I do remember hearing of an iOS Lemmy app that could block instances at a user level, but I’m sorry to say I don’t remember the name.
That being said, I fully agree with you on relying on instance admins to defederate / block instances. I prefer to have the agency to choose for myself what gets blocked / not blocked. Though I can’t complain about my instance’s decisions so far, thankfully.
I hope you find something that works for you.
I’d much rather have admins error on the side of federating with everything vs blocking anything they personally deem unfit. From that perspective, I can’t complain about the admins either. However, being open at that global level really requires controls at the user level. I think that would also ease the burden on the admins to try and make the decisions for everyone, as there is literally no way to get that right. Some subset of the user base will always be unhappy.
It would also be interesting if this was part of the onboarding process, if there were some large instances that leaned into extremism, for example, proactively let the users know these things exist and let them opt in or out. That may encourage silos and group think, so that sucks, but so does letting users stumble into this stuff and letting them get shit on before they figure out, oh I need to actually look at the community name and instance for literally every post before I comment. An interesting post is no longer just an interesting post, it comes with community baggage that need to be considered.
This seems like such a (relatively) simple fix, I’m surprised it hasn’t been implemented yet. I’m almost tempted to try writing a PR of my own at this point.
It sounds like if you do, they’ll merge it.
https://lemm.ee/comment/1860995
Connect and I believe Thunder can block entire instances as well as specific communities and users
kbin has that feature!
When you block an instance on kbin does that mean users from that instance don’t see your content at all when logged into that instance? That’s something I’ve wanted in case in the future some instances federate with Meta, so I don’t provide content for Meta users to see or interact with so they need to log out of Meta or sign up for another instance to view content.
I don’t think so, it just prevents you from seeing that instance’s content including their comments on your posts but not anything else
I think once that becomes a possibility it’ll make defederation unnecessary. Especially when it comes to Meta, since that’s really become the thing I’ve become more concerned about in the future than squabbles between currently existing instances.
If somebody develops that feature, they’ve said they’ll merge it. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397#issuecomment-1658761077
I’ve tried not to block instances (or communities for that matter), because you never know what good communities may appear there at a later date. Instead I generally stick to viewing only my subscribed communities, while occasionally venturing out into Everything to see if there’s anything good I’ve missed.
I guess it’s like using Reddit front page vs using /r/all. I never liked /r/all, so doing it this way is much closer to my Reddit experience.
I guess the good thing is we can all tailor our experiences as we prefer :-)
I’ve historically been really picky about subscribing if to stuff and my subscribed posted tend to be short, so I’d venture into /r/all pretty often to try to see what is popular across everything. I liked when they added the option to filter stuff out of there, so I could get rid of really popular subs on topics I had no interest in, like league of legends. Although I wish there were different thresholds…. Like, normally block this, but if something rises to the top 1% of all time posts, show that to me.
Starting out here I think having ‘all’ is important for discovery, so I tend to go there a lot, but when entire instances are dedicated to an ideology, it seems even if an interesting community came up the skew from the ideology would be an issue. The community which asked me to leave their whole instance was just a generic meme community. I guess I was supposed infer the type of memes and the acceptable comments from the instance name, which seems like tribal knowledge that’s need to be picked up through trial and error.
The other thing was communities based on a kink or genre of porn I’m not interested in. If that’s the focus I don’t foresee an interesting community coming along, just an every growing list of things to block.
Yeah, fair points. I like your idea about a threshold for posts getting through, that’d be clever if it could be made to work.
Yes … yes … more isolation, more bubbles…
You think people should be forced to see things they don’t want to?
I’m not agreeing with the above, but it’s nuanced. Content curation is a sliding scale that can create an echo chamber if one becomes too insular. On the internet especially where discourse can be inflammatory, avoiding some topics can shut you off from entire ideas that may otherwise be benign.
IMO create the experience you want, but build resilience and test your limits often. It’s healthier for yourself and the internet as a community.
I’m very much in agreement with you. I think there’s an important value in seeking out those you disagree with. If your values can’t stand under scrutiny then you really do need to carefully consider them.
At the same time there’s space between what you disagree with and what is harmful to your state of mind for most people. Plenty of people don’t want to see anything NSFW and removing that is in no way turning their experience into a bubble.
Nuance is absolutely an important word here but I think the knee jerk isolation response to mention of blocking things is far more harmful than helpful.
it does seem to me that the people that whinge about bubbles are mostly people espousing reprehensible opinions, while ironically being most aligned with the people in the deepest conservative bubbles.
Gee I wonder what kind of opinion the person who down voted you has
It’s not seeing it that’s the problem, it’s commenting on something, then being attacked for wrong-think, because the instance is tied to a certain ideology that I don’t hold. Someone specifically told me to find another instance, basically telling me not to poke their bubble. I’m trying to honor that, as well as my sanity. I’m willing to have discussions, but it seems others aren’t. They just downvote like crazy and attack me as a person instead of various arguments or ideas. If that’s how it’s going to be, I don’t want to accidentally stumble into it.
There is also a significant amount of cartoon animal porn. I think about 40 of the spaces I blocked were for that. I’m just not interested in seeing that. I’d like to block the instance that hosts most of it, rather than having to block countless individual spaces as I happen across a giant animal dick banging a pony. People are free to have their kinks, but I’d like to be able to simply block it all so I don’t need to know every possible furry porn niche, or yiff(?) I think that’s what I’ve been seeing on a lot of them. I don’t even know what that is.