We recently received a message from a concerned Rammy user regarding their instance not having an active admin team.

We have made attempts to contact the Rammy admins, which other instance admins have tried as well, to determine their current status. Due to their admins being absent and their unmoderated content growing in numbers, we will defederate from Rammy. If and when this situation changes, we will be happy to reevaluate our approach. It should be noted that any instances that have abandoned admin teams will be defederated.

  • teejay@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That’s… not how bills work. Someone has to pay for the electricity, internet traffic / connectivity, and rent / mortgage for the server to exist somewhere. That’s true whether it’s self-hosted in someone’s basement or in a data center somewhere.

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      1 year ago

      You technically aren’t wrong.

      But, in my case, I already had all of the capacity paid for regardless. I’d say, lemmy runs me around 20-30w of load total.

      30w * 24 hours * 30 days = 21,600Wh / 1,000 = 21Kwh * 0.08c = 1.68$ per month.

      In reality, the power load is quite a bit less, and my calculations don’t account for the solar panels on my roof.

      Given, I have around 140-160T of total storage capacity, its not really worth putting a price on the small amount used by lemmy. My internet is paid regardless, and lemmy usage is typically pretty low (typically measured in Kb/s). So, not really worth putting a price here, as it averages less then 1% of my total connection.

      If, I wanted to put a price tag on it, my labor to actually support and maintain it, would be where all of the money went to.

    • Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 year ago

      Contabo’s sign up page lets you pay for up to 12 months at a time, in advance. It’s quite possible they paid for a year, set it up, and then forgot about it or haven’t been able to administer it for other reasons.

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      1 year ago

      That’s… not how servers work. If you are running a home server with hypervisor, which a lot of people are, starting a virtual server probably doesn’t cost you more than $1 a month.

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        1 year ago

        I’m still trying to understand what he means with the rent or mortgage thing… Of course there is a cost but he doesn’t seem to understand how something like that easily stays under the radar… you are not going to notice it when a certain bill goes up for the little bit it costs to self host or what impact it will have on your mortgage… There are things like data usage that will be easier and clearer indicators

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          1 year ago

          It doesn’t make any sense, the most they are realistically paying is €6 a month, and that is if they rented the VPS specifically for running Lemmy, in all other scenarios it is basically free.

          It’s not like you can turn off the server and call the bank and tell them now you don’t have to pay the mortgage, your overhead stays the same if the Lemmy service is on or off.

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      1 year ago

      As if everyone running a home server has proper monitoring. You think running an instance is going to make a noticeable difference on your electric bill? Mortgage for the server?