Jesus Christ, I could barely use Reddit when it was free. Can’t imagine being such a tool I’d pay for the privilege of browsing that fucking ridiculous echo chamber. Moving to lemmy was the best thing I could’ve done. Wish I’d known about this place sooner. So much less ridiculous nonsense infighting and parroting basic ass taking points.
Look screw Reddit right there with you, but I don’t get the whole “anti-echo chamber” thing. We select people to be friends we generally like and agree with. We often don’t associate with people we don’t like or disagree with. Why should social media be some totally egalitarian social exposure? That’s literally never been the case ever.
We read what we want to read. We talk to who we want to talk to. I’m not going to be guilted into listening to some jerk who thinks gay people shouldn’t marry and belong in hell. I don’t want to share a beer with them, I would never invite them to dinner in my home, so why should I have to deal with them living rent free in my mind because I saw some ignorant post on social media?
I have plenty of work colleagues and family I disagree with, I read sources I don’t always love. I get plenty of exposure to other ways of thinking and ideas. Do I think people can go too far and literally only surround themselves with “yes men” socially? Sure. But come on. How many of us actually spend equal time with people we both agree and disagree ideologically with?
For what it’s worth, I’m speaking very broadly here, not coming directly at you. It’s just something I see a lot and it always makes me raise an eyebrow.
I’m not certain their point was the anti echo chamber thing. In other words the phony “free speech” thing that means you have to let bigots ply their rhetoric.
Do I think people can go too far and literally only surround themselves with “yes men” socially?
Reddit has serious problems localized extremum. To detach it from politicization take the 3D printing subreddits for example. For a while they were convinced it’s the second arrival of Jesus. At one point it was said every household would have this appliance. Like a washing machine or refrigerator. You must conform to the talking points. Cryptocurrency is a recent one. There is no talking like normal people in those subreddits without being faced with scripted rhetoric. Real life isn’t like this. In real life people don’t talk like stump speeches.
Do I think people can go too far and literally only surround themselves with “yes men” socially? Sure.
You left out the part where i said it happens. I know it’s definitely an issue, and unlike a social club that meets once a week or month, they are able to browse and post on it at-will 24/7 and rile each other up. There’s no denying this is an issue. But when people talk about “social media echo chambers” they are usually pointing to this idea, broadly speaking, that everyone should be reading 15 different sources they don’t agree with and regularly breaking bread with people they disagree with, which just doesn’t reflect any aspect of reality other then, say, the workplace or thanksgiving. And notice we have all sorts of rules and social standards that are unique to the workplace and lectures about “no politics at thanksgiving” as a result!
Like I said, I don’t want to get a beer with someone who browsed the_donald regularly. Yet they would say I’m living in an echo chamber for not wanting to be around their bile.
That wasn’t an attempt to be disingenuous. It was to mark a reference point in your text. You’re trying to extrapolate arguments where there may or may not be any. That’s no better than how reddit is.
If we’re going to take sloppy digs at people re: reddit then it behooves me to point out that you did a very-reddit thing by ignoring 90% of what I wrote.
So basically it’s. Pay per view. Glad I jumped off the train in time. This is madness.
Especially since the whole attraction to Reddit was basically unlimited scrolling to get to the next news story/meme. You really don’t want to have to think about limiting that.
I wouldn’t mind a pay per view model for general news Eg you see an interesting article on Lemmy that is behind a paywall but instead of having to subscribe to the NY times or whatever you can just pay 10c or so to read the specific article. ( To the news site directly not Lemmy) Needs to be low enough so the average punter doesn’t think twice to spend it. Quality journalism does need payment somehow and we are about to be swamped with garbage AI articles.
I would have considered subscribing to Apollo to access reddit through it for a reasonable cost but they have royally screwed any chance of that happening.
If Reddit starts charging for content they should pay their writers.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The costs of a subscription will go up based on a user’s daily average number of API calls, essentially meaning that the more things a person does in the app, the more they might have to pay.
Here is the full list, from developer DBrady’s post, which appears to include Google’s take of the subscription and Relay’s expected revenues:
In the newest release of Relay, DBrady says they also added the ability for users to see their average daily API calls.
The plan is for a subscription to roll out in two or three weeks from the time of their post and they expect to charge a monthly cost of $3 or $4.
“This won’t cover the cost of ‘super users’ who use the app all day, but, on average, it should allow me to pay the Reddit API bill,” the developer said.
Many subreddits and users protested against the switch to the paid API in-party because of its effect on the third-party app ecosystem.
I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Good bot
If Reddits pricing was reasonable I would not find this objectionable but the way the Apollo developer spoke about this, the API pricing was meant to kill third party developers.
It’s like a 90s phone bill all over again.
“You were shit posting? Before 9pm? In a long distance subreddit!!! Our reddit bill is ludicrous!!!”
This is like they tied the uncle (the cool one, not the drunk thanksgiving gop candidate) to a stripper post and are making him dance for dollars now.
After they dug the poor bastard up after he’d just been unceremoniously raped to death by Spez. You loved your uncle, now pay to see whats left dance around.
Relay user here. This is probably obvious to most but I feel it should still be stated because people don’t read everything. The vibe I got from DBrady’s markups was that he plans to make it a prepaid subscription thing. You’ll be able to see how many of your API calls you’ve used and will have the option to upgrade your plan at any time
Here’s a markup https://i.imgur.com/lIbBPJo.png
I’m curious how the dev’s math will pan out. I doubt many casual users will stick around to pay a few bucks when the mobile app works for most people, and the types that would pay 5 a month are probably the types to reddit throughout the day,
Pay to use. Then they sell your data. Double dipping.
Lol fuckin’ yikes. I can honestly say I’m glad I left. That sounds like a shitshow.
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