• onepinksheep@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    The misuse of this meme is one of my biggest meme pet peeves. Have people forgotten that in that scene, his vision is clear when he’s not wearing glasses? So the meme should be the other way around.

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      Like many memes, this one exists outside of the original oeuvre (movie, painting, etc). For instance, I have not see the movie it comes from, it wouldn’t makes sense to me if it was the other way around.

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    Yeah, ain’t this the truth. Firefox and safari are the only browsers that arent chromium based. We must protect Firefox at all coats! Without it, Google would have a monopoly on the browser space… a world I would not like to live in.

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    God damn I thought I saw the last of these stupid browser takes on reddit, chromium is open source and we’ve seen multiple browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, I think librewolf) using its potential to remove themselves from the chromium baseline and build out their own fork with ad blocking services that didn’t go down when manifest V3 happened.

    There’s no “browser monopoly” anymore than there’s a “V shaped engine” monopoly in cars. Why don’t people use Gecko more? That’s like asking why people don’t use rotary piston engines in cars, you could, it’s just garbage. Gecko isn’t the standard because no one wants to build a web browser with it.

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      Librewolf is hardened Firefox not Chromium. If you really care about privacy there’s no option but to go Firefox/Librewolf.

      I use Librewolf on PC and Fennec on my Androids. Both fron Gecko engine. Ungoogled Chromium still depends on google web services not to mention just shitty to use. Chromium is (de facto) standard not because it’s inarguably good. It’s because Chrome has been defacto standard web browser since 2010 because IE was an utter trash and Chrome suddenly appeared and won over it.

      Firefox couldn’t win that war because it wasn’t a new kid and all people could remember was it not working properly with websites that are designed for IE, even after websites moved to web standards, which was the reason Chrome was working properly.

      I don’t care if Chromium is slightly faster or it supports newer web standards hairthin ahead. I hate Chrome and Chromium and love Firefox.

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        not to mention just shitty to use.

        Come back to me when Firefox has workspaces, tab stacking, a side panel, and the rest of the aesthetic customization of Vivaldi.

        You’re a fanboy, clearly, but you haven’t actually argued why Firefox is better, just that you like it more because you’re seething at chromium.

        Firefox lost because it used to be shitty and everyone just assumed it still is, whoops. Better luck next time. When Vivaldi stops blocking ads natively without an installed ad blocker (still haven’t noticed any YouTube ads post V3) I’ll consider switching. Until then, this “bUt cHrOmiUm” shit is just a joke.

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          None of that is chromium. Vivaldi could have built that on top of Firefox, but didn’t. As to why Firefox is better, the very fact that it’s an alternative that is keeping up technically is a benefit. It’s less a ‘V-shaped engine’ monopoly and moreso a ‘V8 engine made by a specific company’ monopoly. They have far too much control over the direction of web standards. Much of what they are doing is actually good, but it should then be spread based on merit, rather than because they directly control almost the entire market.

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          I can use just the same logic with Firefox too. Workspace is in firefox as Container. Actually it’s been forever. Self hostable sync? The idea of logging in to an account to a company in a browser nonetheless is horrifying. Vivaldi talks about how great their privacy feature is but their default Adblock on Vivaldi is no match to ubo so no real benefit when I’m just going to have to install ubo atop. Oh and default enabled Google services? No thanks.

          Bringing Vivaldi or basically any other browser is kinda missing the point. Someone can make the very same features happen with Gecko. I’m mostly concerned with privacy which I think I made clear which is the reason I don’t get why you try to point out the clear fact that I’m a fanboy. I am. To be clear, I hate Google. I use Duckduckgo to search, Nextcloud for drive, Piped for youtube frontend and so on. I try to avoid Google and other unnessesary privacy concerning things as much as I can.

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    Honestly, my biggest fear if Apple ever allows other browser engines on iOS is that developers will stop testing on anything other than Chrome. And they will tell iPhone users to “just download Chrome.”

    I’ve already heard so many places tell people not to use Firefox or Safari to access their website. It’s IE 6 all over again. I hate Chrome and refuse to use it.

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      Yes, it’s a sad state of affairs that Apple’s restrictions on iOS and iPadOS browsers are the only thing stopping an effective Google monopoly over web browsers. Ideally Firefox would still keep things in balance, but Mozilla doesn’t seem to know what it’s doing these days in terms of building market share - and I say that as a long time Firefox user.

      I still remember the IE 6 era, and I hope we never see a single browser dominate the web again. To those wishing Apple would be forced to open up, be careful what you wish for.

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        Firefox is in a pickle, because unlike the IE/Firefox, where FF was winning share by the boatload against a stagnant competitor, Chrome is super actively developed, active and heavily pushed by Google. Basically FF is now kept alive by Google the way you’d keep a single competitor city alive in Civilization to ensure you game wouldn’t end with a military/domination victory. FF is a Native American reservation surrounded by white folks not giving a shit about what happens on your dust bowl.

        But yes, FF for life for me!

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    I hate chromium.

    It acts like chrome because IT IS CHROME!!! Minus the obvious branding and proprietary “Google-y bits” Unfortunately it’s the same codebase.

    At least Firefox at it’s core truly differs.

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      The only reason Chromium exists is because Google is bound by the original license when they bought it, which is copyleft. So they have to release an open source version, which is Chromium. Google Chrome is their flagship product and is proprietary and hence is the one that bears the Google branding and colours.

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    This is precisely what makes Firefox so important. It’s basically the only other open and independent implementation of the web stack. If Firefox goes away then the web becomes whatever Chrome is doing just how it was in the days when IE was the only game in town.

    This will also make Google the gatekeeper for the Internet, and there’s a pretty big conflict with an ads company controlling how people consume content online. We’ve already seen how Google keeps trying to make API changes in the engine that kneecap adblockers.

    Of course, people could fork Chrome into a separate project, but maintaining a fork is a herculean effort, and it would basically need the funding and infrastructure that Mozilla already has.