I only saw the Star of David when I wrote the comment but it was pointed out to me that there are blue bars above and below which makes it into the flag of Israel which is a whole different story. The story that he did have ties to Israel I wasn’t aware of.
It’s the flag of Israel, specifically. He had ties to former Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Israeli intelligence services; apparently Mossad was involved in his island’s security and supposedly he worked closely with them. He also funded the IDF through the US nonprofit Friends of the Israeli Defense Force and other settler efforts through the Jewish National Fund. Calling out Israel is not antisemitic; Israel is a state, not a religion or ethnicity.
It’s an Israeli flag, not a jewish flag, and he was an Israeli honeypot, as there is no way you do not know at this point that he was getting blackmail on people for Israel, it’s beyond dispute.
As a jew, I also had the same initial reaction to the star of david. Then I realized the bars of the flag are present as the band of the underwear and a line at the bottom of the briefs. I wish there was a gap between the bars and the top/bottom to make this more obvious and more accurate to the flag instead of the symbol of judaism. This being the flag makes sense. If it was just the star, I would agree that it is antisemitic.
Thanks for answering respectfully. I didn’t see the bars but now I do. Neither was I aware of any ties between him and Israel but reading the other comments, I guess I missed it.
I try to make my critics of Israel about settler colonialism and genocide, not about Judaism. When I see an “against every antisemitism”-sticker, I put my “stop the genocide”-sticker demonstratively next to it. Speaking out against antisemitism stays important, especially in times where people conflate Israel with Judaism on both sides (either to defend the Zionist project or to attack uninvolved Jews) but in this case, I misread it and lacked context.
The files are filled with Epstein’s weird supremacist ideas and interest in eugenics. The way he talked about his race vs everyone else was like something out of the worst antisemitic conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard.
The P.E.Z. was nazi propaganda in the 1930s, but 2020s Israel is turning it into a torment nexus.
It’s like something out if a Greek myth, when someone’s efforts to avert a prophesied calamity ends up actually being what causes the prophecy to self-fulfill.
Based on evidence released so far it’s clear Epstein was a Mossad agent, running a child raping blackmail ring on Israel’s behalf in order to manipulate world events.
I know you’re pretending to not know that, but it’s a fact. Another fact is that criticizing the government of Israel does not equate to antisemitism.
You claimed Epstein was “running a child raping blackmail ring on Israel’s behalf” but that article doesn’t seem to mention sex or rape
If Epstein had conversations with Israeli officials then okay, but I don’t think that means his sex crimes were some sort of plot masterminded by Israel
You also said “criticizing the government of Israel does not equate to antisemitism” and yes I agree with that. But putting a Star of David on Epstein’s underwear in the artwork seems to me like an antisemitic dog whistle. Epstein was not known for links to Israel (as I said, maybe he had some conversations with Israelis, but this isn’t widely known). He is widely known to be Jewish though.
I just think criticism of public figures should be based upon facts (which seem to be horrible enough in this case) instead of bigotry or conjecture
How is Epstein’s Jewishness relevant? This is straightforward antisemitism
You’re right. Without the Star of David it would be a good piece of art, but instead it looks like the artist really doesn’t like Jews
I only saw the Star of David when I wrote the comment but it was pointed out to me that there are blue bars above and below which makes it into the flag of Israel which is a whole different story. The story that he did have ties to Israel I wasn’t aware of.
It’s the flag of Israel, specifically. He had ties to former Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Israeli intelligence services; apparently Mossad was involved in his island’s security and supposedly he worked closely with them. He also funded the IDF through the US nonprofit Friends of the Israeli Defense Force and other settler efforts through the Jewish National Fund. Calling out Israel is not antisemitic; Israel is a state, not a religion or ethnicity.
Trying to define Jewishness by what Israel and/or Epstein does is antisemitic.
It’s an Israeli flag, not a jewish flag, and he was an Israeli honeypot, as there is no way you do not know at this point that he was getting blackmail on people for Israel, it’s beyond dispute.
Ahh, the ole “Israel = Judaism” argument that allows me to call anyone critical of genocidal assholes in Israel a racist. Classic!
As a jew, I also had the same initial reaction to the star of david. Then I realized the bars of the flag are present as the band of the underwear and a line at the bottom of the briefs. I wish there was a gap between the bars and the top/bottom to make this more obvious and more accurate to the flag instead of the symbol of judaism. This being the flag makes sense. If it was just the star, I would agree that it is antisemitic.
Thanks for answering respectfully. I didn’t see the bars but now I do. Neither was I aware of any ties between him and Israel but reading the other comments, I guess I missed it.
I try to make my critics of Israel about settler colonialism and genocide, not about Judaism. When I see an “against every antisemitism”-sticker, I put my “stop the genocide”-sticker demonstratively next to it. Speaking out against antisemitism stays important, especially in times where people conflate Israel with Judaism on both sides (either to defend the Zionist project or to attack uninvolved Jews) but in this case, I misread it and lacked context.
Thoughtful responses like these give me hope
Not Jewish. israeli. Not that simpletons can see a difference.
How could you possibly make the case that his widely documented ties to a state intelligence apparatus ISNT a big deal, no matter what country it is?
The files are filled with Epstein’s weird supremacist ideas and interest in eugenics. The way he talked about his race vs everyone else was like something out of the worst antisemitic conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard.
The P.E.Z. was nazi propaganda in the 1930s, but 2020s Israel is turning it into a torment nexus.
It’s like something out if a Greek myth, when someone’s efforts to avert a prophesied calamity ends up actually being what causes the prophecy to self-fulfill.
Reality is stranger than fiction sometimes…
All of Israel is at this point. They are nazis. They have 5 or 6 million others forced into ghettos they control and abuse coincidentally.
Tell me what your country is, and I’ll tell you how it enables the USA and Israel.
When you sit at the table with Nazis, you’re a Nazi! So, gross.
He was funded by mossad. Epstein island was quite literally an israeli honeypot. Facts aren’t antisemitic.
And the State of Israel ≠ the Jewish ethnicity.
Zionists these days have become a parody of themselves.
Based on evidence released so far it’s clear Epstein was a Mossad agent, running a child raping blackmail ring on Israel’s behalf in order to manipulate world events.
I know you’re pretending to not know that, but it’s a fact. Another fact is that criticizing the government of Israel does not equate to antisemitism.
Please prove the “fact” that Epstein was a “Mossad agent” working on “Israel’s behalf” with a reputable source to substantiate your claims
lmgtfy: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-putin-israel-russia-syria-war-depose-assad
You claimed Epstein was “running a child raping blackmail ring on Israel’s behalf” but that article doesn’t seem to mention sex or rape
If Epstein had conversations with Israeli officials then okay, but I don’t think that means his sex crimes were some sort of plot masterminded by Israel
You also said “criticizing the government of Israel does not equate to antisemitism” and yes I agree with that. But putting a Star of David on Epstein’s underwear in the artwork seems to me like an antisemitic dog whistle. Epstein was not known for links to Israel (as I said, maybe he had some conversations with Israelis, but this isn’t widely known). He is widely known to be Jewish though.
I just think criticism of public figures should be based upon facts (which seem to be horrible enough in this case) instead of bigotry or conjecture
You are straightforward jerking my chain, as there is no way that anybody could actually believe what you’re saying, right guys?!?!
RIGHT