I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.
Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.
I use proton pass because I our a subscription to proton unlimited and proton pass lets me hide my emails by making a forwarded email which is helpful.
Update: After publication, an employee on the Bitwarden subreddit said that “Always free” had been restored on its pricing page, calling it an “oversight” by the marketing team. The product page for Bitwarden’s personal password manager remains unchanged.
Oversight
They got community checked and backtracked hard… I have always endorsed bitwarden but that is becoming worrisome. :(
Yeah, you know those marketing team people. They totally went out of their way to make more work for themselves to change it with I’m sure zero instructions from higher up to do so.
Why people bother with any corporate software when it really don’t provide much more than completely FOSS alternatives
Bitwarden is completely FOSS, both client and server
Not if you are being strict with the definition of FOSS.
Free and open source
Is free? Yep
Is OSS? YepIs it full libre? I think not, right? And I assume that is your actual issue with it?
FOSS is a standardized term. As the Free Software Foundation defines it:
Free and open-source software (FOSS) is software available under a license that gives users the right to use, share, modify, and distribute the software – modified or not – to everyone and provides the means to exercise those rights using the software’s source code.
You are not granted right to modify or distribute Bitwarden. You can inspect and use that to build your own. That is what Vaultwarden does.
So you wanna say it’s Source-Available, yes?
All I say is that it’s not FOSS in the strict sense.
Well, it was fun while it lasted, lol.
Experienced this with 1 Password. Experienced this with Enpass in another way. Really doesn’t want to experience this with Bitwarden especially because of self-hosting. Let’s hold thumbs but, apparently, it was fun while it lasted…
I’m curious what your problem with enpass was? I got lifetime cheap back when lastpass went to hell and as far as I can tell with Wifi sync they could go out of business entirely and I could still use it.
Luckily BW is open source, and VaultWarden exists. If they enshitify, all it takes is a fork of the browser extensions and apps with a rebrand.
This right here is the only answer
Companies can try to steal the app but they can only steal the name
Exactly, IMO Vaultwarden should just fork the clients and extensions and officially take the lead. Bitwarden can just go the way of OpenOffice for all I care.
Yeah, this here is exactly the reason why anytime I have to migrate from any piece of software I’m migrating to something open source and standards compliant.
How would network hosting work, though? Like… do I need to pull my passwords down now?
You can export from any of the BW clients. Then import into sepf-hosted BW or VW.
I knew trouble was brewing when they started adding the little corporate cute waving graphics and stuff to the UI. Glad I already migrated away
What are u using? I just got onto Bitwarden and set up all my credentials there!
I was about to and also interested
WHERE is this CEO from?
Fuuuuuuck
Nothing good ever lasts. Guess that’s entropy for you.
From the article
Update: After publication, an employee on the Bitwarden subreddit said that “Always free” had been restored on its pricing page, calling it an “oversight” by the marketing team. The product page for Bitwarden’s personal password manager remains unchanged.
Don’t care. Being owned by a private equity bro is enough for me ✌️
Sounds someone was caught doing silly stuff… it will be interesting how this will develop in the future.
i guess unregulated capitalism is inherently entropic… since its utlimately a system that consumes itself until everything is gone and it dies and returns to background radiation.
They took the VC money
This is troubling and I am going to accelerate my migration to Vaultwarden. I’m not going to leave Bitwarden yet but I saw how this played out with LastPass, and I was a happy LastPass customer until I wasn’t.
Docker and caddy make this pretty easy. Even easier if you have a static ip and go to porkbun for a domain.
And that’s only if you wanna access it outside your network. Mostly you can get away with syncing before you leave.
Or just use ZeroTier/Tailscale/NetBird/Wireguard and you can access your server from anywhere without exposing it to the imternet directly.
Yeah I know but I’d rather just expose the services I want.
And I’d rather not deal with extra, unnecessary security concerns.
Cool. You do you and I’ll do me.
I should get a cheap laptop and start self hosting…
Why the fuck does everything that’s good turn to shit? This world sucks. This timeline sucks.
VC ruins everything
This is literally a product where a hobbyist tried to fix a niche, and now the VCs arrive.
it’s all motivated by the accumulation of wealth = capitalism
Accumulation of power is a common motive regardless of political system. Money is just one way power gets expressed.
Not claiming our system is perfect by any means. But this thought, to me, always felt like kicking the can down the road.
It’s not a timeline. It’s just the world we keep making. The only one.
reading this as someone who migrated the rest of the household to Bitwarden literally yesterday: 😒
It took me years after the lastpass breach to get my wife and 1/3 of my kids to switch to Bitwarden. I am not looking to having to migrate again.
You won’t have to. Bitwarden is FOSS. The server is able to be self hosted so “migration” will just be you moving their account to the self hosted one if things go south
but exporting is easy with bitwarden. this is annoying. after the age check laws, i have been moving off big companies because it will be bad snd i know my migration will take a bit. i finalized bitwarden a couple weeks ago and was just about to assist my family.
i would not be as upset if ram and harddtives didnt cost a mortgage right now.
It does not matter how easy exporting is, the difficulty is going someone who really does not understand why they should be using a password locker to use one, much less change to a different one.
What do you use it for?
Proton pass has been fine for me. I don’t care that the one Proton guy said the one thing that time, I’m out of energy and it’s good enough.
Are they OSS?
What do they do differently than BW?To me, they are just another vendor that seem very corpo
Proton seems okay still at the moment, but with their growing in scope and success I imagine it’s only a matter of time
Another happy proton pass user here, i do care about what that one guy said but not enough to switch to another service. Not foss, but it’s definitely a good enough thing for me.
Yeah I think you said it better. If I boycotted every company that employs one person I disagree with I would be self hosting everything. Proton represents the best in privacy-focused non-Google/Microsoft hosted email and productivity services. There are numerous reasons that we should want to see them succeed if even just to take some market share from Google.
There’s kind of a difference between an employee and a CEO.
It’s just annoying on Android because it often struggles if there’s a “remember me” checkbox. And there aren’t separate fields for username and email.
