Why are people so upset about Beehaw being quite exclusionary?
When I first learned about the Fediverse part of the appeal was that some instances would be open, some would be more exclusive, and that was part of the appeal. Don’t like how open/exclusionary one is? Then leave and go to a different one.
Defederation is a feature of the Fediverse, and using it isn’t some big crime.
Defederation is a feature of the Fediverse, and using it isn’t some big crime.
Defederation was meant as a last measure to block instances like gab.ai or truth social. Not to block content the Moderators may not like. At the end it should be the users choice what content they enjoy. Large instances blocking each other betrays the whole idea, the dream that we can all communicate. This is, at its core, Gmail blocking Outlook users to send mails to Gmail users because Outlook allows X, Y and Z and its just insanity.
Where PeerTube?
Hey, it was quick and dirty 🤷.
Plus 99% of them don’t allow you to open an ccount, so… f them.
@0x4E4F @Dirk that’s a feature not a bug, unless they are single user or family only instances, they usually will let you open an account if you contact the admin directly. But some others do allow open registration, like the one I have an account on, that I’ve never really used, https://peertube.uno
@0x4E4F @Dirk remember all content requires storage to host it, and high-quality video is particularly expensive for that. peertube.uno is brought to us by the folks at https://devol.it which offers a ton of these kind of services free of charge with open registration, and I’m not really sure how they afford to. (Though I might have a better idea if I actually spoke Italian.) I first found them searching for an alternative to Google Docs and found https://cryptpad.devol.it and learned #Cryptpad is even better than GoogleDocs without the surveillance capitalism.
@fuat2mb hello! Thanks for sharing the love about CryptPad! Just a small thing about that instance you are linking to: it’s very much outdated, contains bugs and is misconfigured (posing security issues, look at https://cryptpad.devol.it/checkup/). For up-to-date instances we recommend checking our community public list: https://cryptpad.org/instances/. Hope this helps! 😊 @0x4E4F @Dirk
@cryptpad @0x4E4F @Dirk it was still the first one I found when doing an internet search, even before cyrtpad.fr, and their collective hosts a tone of good services free of charge with open registration, but I’ll try to contact the admins and see what they can do. But I don’t speak Italian.
Beehaw is just a lemmy instance. I’d replacde it with pixelfed
Whooosssh, beehaw being there is the joke. They see themselves as better than other Lemmy instances and have defederated some other large instances
Except isn’t the truth that they experienced harassment from other open-registration instances and in lack of better moderation tools chose to defederate for the time being?
That’s what they said but there wasn’t much harassment, mainly they were preempting this.
How do you know there wasn’t much harassment?
Beehaw defederate almost 400 other instances, do they immediately defed if one or two users harass them?
At some point they stopped playing whack-a-mole and imported some blocklist for Mastodon
What in the AF 😂.
Why not just run a forum, why choose Lemmy…
I bet they were waiting to fill with users after the migration and just close shop…
Mod logs
The moderation activity has increased exponentially the last few weeks, what do you mean specifically?
You can find this information for yourself by searching Lemmy. Can’t be arsed with this back and forth when the information is freely available, the mod logs prior to the defederation shows no mass user ban on their instance. Which is what you would expect to see to justify the defederation. They also said they were defederating because of the fact Lemmy.world and sh.itjustworks didnt require email verification on sign up.
Way to kill a joke.
Good day to you, adieu
My thoughts as well… I mean, come on, how much harrasement can you get on a platform that has just begun filling with users and barely has 10K users… we’d have to all be in on it, like “hey, everyone, let’s fuck with beehaw, he he he 😁”.
We need a r/whoooosh on lemmy
Why does it only have 2 O’s? Whoooosh normaly has 4
Lemmy and beehaw are the same software, different servers.
That’s the joke. They defederate from everyone, thus effectively making it their own platform.
There’s so many things wrong with the way beehaw is run that I don’t even know where to start.
Give me one? Beehaw is one of my favourite instances short of lemmy.ca.
They defederated with multiple large lemmy instances (lemmy.world and another I don’t remember). They also did this in an asymmetric way making themselves an island whose content gets sent out into the fediverse but who doesn’t listen to updates for the content that gets sent out.
If I comment on a beehaw post as a lemmy.world user, my comment will only live on lemmy.world and not the rest of the fediverse because of what beehaw did
Well yeah, but that was because of an influx of spam and not because beehaw admins have anything against lemmyworld. Afaik they are currently working out with lemmyworld’s admin how to solve this situation and refederate.
Yea its pretty much the same with our instance. They defederated from us but our admins and their admins are chill and want to eventually refederate.
At this point, I don’t even care, I unsubscribed from all beehaw communities.
Yeah, but who’s fault was it that beehaw got swarmed with users. Everyone on beehaw that also had reddit accounts wrote “come over to Lemmy, sign up on beehaw 😉”… why would I even suggest that if it doesn’t matter on which instance users signed up, they can all still see the same content posted on the fediverse. Unless you defederate that is, then yeah… but that just means that they were planning on running it like a forum and defederate from the start, then just use the influx as an excuse.
They basically run it as a forum… with ActivityPub.
A CCP administrated forum! Taking inspiration straight from spez
