The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz’s population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be’eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It’s one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

“Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul,” a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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    Hamas thought this operation would change everything.

    They were right, but not in the way they expected. All they’ve done is turn soft sympathisers like myself away from their cause. They deserve everything they get and it’s not going to be pretty. The Palestinian who will be killed during crossfire are on Hamas hands this time and the rest of the world will see it that way. absolute own goal, so they could… massacre a bunch of civilians. Hamas showing military genius of the likes of Russia

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      Israel at least shows an attempt to target military and government buildings, where as Hamas always aims for civilians. And they use their own people as human shields. It’s gotten harder and harder to sympathize, and keep seeing their point of view.

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        Lmao what? They cut off water to civilians. It’s over. Palestinian women and children are going to be dying in massive numbers over the next week.

        That doesn’t even begin to include the number of Palestinian civilians being shelled to oblivion in the supposed “safe areas” designated by the authorities.

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        Israel at least shows an attempt to target military and government buildings,

        They’re not doing that right now, that’s for sure.

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          Maybe something about blowing through the border like a bunch of orcs and murdering, raping and pillaging that makes you the bad guy. Where’s the news story of Israel officials blowing up the wall, murdering innocent people and foreigners at a music festival while stripping them and parading them through the streets?

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            Maybe something about blowing through the border like a bunch of orcs and murdering, raping and pillaging that makes you the bad guy

            So the idf?

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              Show me the report of Israeli forces parading a naked foreigner through the streets after blowing up a music festival

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                Oh you got me that specific thing I can’t show because why could I? I can do the same, show me one instance of a Palestinian executing a us citizen by bulldozer for 15 minutes.

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          Far be it for me to defend the IDF, but Hamas does go out of its way to create civilian death delimeas for Israel, such as using news buildings and hospitals for critical operations centers. It’s a win/win, either Israel won’t destroy that Hamas infrastructure, or they literally blow up journalists and hospitals.

          I’m not even saying this to cast judgement one way, or another, it’s just an objective statement of fact and these tactics are incredibly effective for the type of conflict they’re engaged in.

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            If it’s an objective statement of fact then you can definitely provide sources where third parties have confirmed that information to be true, right?

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        Bro they’re been demolishing civilian infrastructure for decades, most of the time Palestinian Gaza does not have power because Israel bombs the power station.

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        Hamas is shit but no yeah Israel kills thousands of civilians every year. They’ve killed 22 journalists in 20 years. They have hit news buildings with rockets, once calling for an evacuation first, for whatever fucking reason they had to hit those buildings I guess. Israel is an apartheid state. No, Hamas isn’t giving a proper response.

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        It’s for this human shield behaviour that this could be the beginning of the end for the whole of Palestine. Israel doesn’t care anymore, so any civilians are going to be in the firing line too. All Hamas needs to do to bring about the end of Palestine is to keep using Palestinians as meat shields.

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        Literally the opposite. Like in black and white, in the data on death tolls since 1948 or whenever you want to start counting. Palestine doesn’t have a military, Israel doesn’t allow them to. How would they be targeted if they don’t exist? Every. Single. Time. Someone from

        Hamas does something stupid out of desperation, takes out a couple Israeli soldiers, and Israel responds by slaughtering hundreds to thousands of Palestinian civilians. Completely disproportionate in every way.

        Like it’s kind of wild how much gall it takes to straight up REVERSE a statistic like that, and state it as fact. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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          You’re advocating for the rape, murder and kidnapping of women and children and I should be shamed of myself right? Palestine may have been a great state once, but now it’s a terrorist stronghold and you can say Palestinians are a race but they’re not, they’re a nationality. They’re Arab, and the Arab world hates and rejects them too cause they’re extremists. Again what they were is what they were, now they’re just a band of terrorists hanging on for dear life

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      No, the Gaza residents don’t deserve collective punishment, and that is what Hamas wants. They want Israel to overreact and clamp down. They want videos of their dead children and women across all media. This is part of the tried and true strategy of big guy vs little guy conflicts, and guess what it NEVER WORKS… for the big guy.

      How did 9/11 work out for Osama Bin Laden? Better then he could have ever even dreamed of.

      You can’t kill your way out of this kind of conflict. The only ways out are A) complete genocide or B) political resolutions and bringing them to the table.

      Neither Bibi, nor Hamas, want option B, and they’re both hoping that eventually option A will work out in their favor.

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        You just contradict yourself. You can’t kill your way out of this kind of conflict. Then you say you can complete genocide. So you can kill your way out of this.

        That is likely what they are going to do. Starve out and destroy Gaza so everyone leaves. Then enter it and take it over and build another wall woth even more guns and keep pushing new walls further back to make the balstics Hamas use less effective.

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        Option A won’t work out for them if they and their buddies cease existing and the strip is radioactive glass. Same with their buddies Hezbollah. And Israel, regardless of strategic ambiguity, almost certainly has the capability to pull it off.

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          Setting aside your own genocidal fantasies, which are beyond fucked up, I think you should pick up a map of the region and look at it. Like really look at it.

          And if, within 10 secs, you don’t understand just how incredibly dumb your idea is, I think you should immediately get a vasectomy, because that would mean you’re way way way too stupid to ever be allowed to reproduce.

          Please, for the sake of the world, snip snip.

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            I am a member of the United States Navy SSBN force, trained to set condition 1SQ for Strategic Launch of thermonuclear warheads if and when called upon to do so without hesitation. Each missile is capable of carrying in excess of ten multiple independent reentry vehicles, and each warhead is capable of at least ten times the power of Hiroshima.

            What do you do for a living?

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              Yep, you definitely should snip snip. Please, for the sake of world’s gene pool.

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                Nah, my shipmates already have dozens of children, all slated to enlist or commission in the most powerful nuclear navy in the world when they are eligible. You should’ve seen Family Day on the pier. Our next generation of recruits are already on their way and lining up, our next strategic weapons platforms are already being built and slated for DASO in the next few years. Just earlier this year, we surfaced SSBNs in both Faslane, Scotland and Busan, South Korea, and an SSGN in Perth, Australia. Our SSNs are everywhere lurking beneath the waves, and our Seawolves are listening and stalking wherever they’re needed.

                So stand down, civilian. There’s no stopping this war machine.

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      Palestinians using violent means might think they’re succeeding because they are actually getting landback for the first time in decades, but they fail to consider how bad it looks to me, a guy on the internet who thinks it would be better for their PR if they kept dying instead.

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        A) they didnt get land back, they are likely to lose more

        B) throw rocks at tanks, dont be surprised when you get glassed

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          A) they didnt get land back, they are likely to lose more

          False, they did. And they only lose more if Israel continues its genocide, which you’re prob gonna advocate.

          B) throw rocks at tanks, dont be surprised when you get glassed

          Like I said. Grotesque, as usual 🤣

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      Have you seen the air raids in the Gaza strip? They fucked up big time. They’re getting carpet bombed, I can’t believe they didn’t see this coming

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      Hamas has always supported genocide against Jewish Israelis, they have always been extreme. You had sympathy for that? WTF bro!?

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        sympathy for the plight of the poor bastards being used as pawns by their genocidal terrorist leaders? yeah of course I do. Why would I be in favour of wiping the people out?

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          You shouldn’t, but you phrased in a way that made it sound like the Palestinian masses are responsible for Hamas.

          The masses aren’t interested in instigating war or conflict. Muslims and Jews both could live in peace like they did before the West took over, but that would disrupt the western hegemony. I think people should blame leaders, including leaders outside the Middle East when we are looking for reasons for this never ending and bloody conflict.

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      At the next Hamas leadership meeting

      “Guys our attacks are causing us to lose the support of Internet neckbeards that kind of sort of support us but never did anything at all to show that support”

      “Oh no, they’re our most crucial supporters”

      “I told you we should have just kept letting the IDF commit war crimes on us with impunity”