• flossdaily@lemmy.world
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    I cloned my own voice to prank a friend, and… Wow, it was a gut-dropping moment when I understood just how dangerous this tool is for precisely this type of scam.

    It’s one thing to hear about it, but to actual experience it… Terrifying.

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    As someone who has an uncanny ability to recognize voices, I’m skeptical about how good these really are. Of course, most people don’t share that ability.

    Meanwhile, I could probably be fooled by a picture.

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      Hmm, I understand your sentiment, but how would you know. Of course you’d pick out the bad dupes but this technology is getting really good that I fear it would go unnoticed, especially if they keep the detectable ones to reinforce bias

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        For me, it could be either. Some of us recognize people by their voices more than by their faces.

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    Whomever is stupid enough to think that Tom Hanks is calling you personally probably needs a court appointed guardian.

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      Did you read the article? It’s talking about taking kids voices from TikTok and shit. Social media. People have been posting videos of themselves talking for years. That’s enough data to train an ai to leave a message saying, “mom, I lost my phone and I’m in trouble. I need some money.” Or something of that sort. It’s been happening for a long time. This is only making it more confincing

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        The reference of the entire article is talking about scammers using AI models of voice you know and understand. None of these scam rings have the time to break it down to your family.

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      Unless you actually know Tom Hanks personally and are expecting a call from him, of course.

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    Anyone know how many hours of training data it takes to build up a convincing model of someone’s voice? It was 10’s of hours when I did a bit of research a year ago… the article says social media is the likely source of training data for these scams, but that seems unlikely at this point.

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        Is it safe to assume that if you don’t have any family that posts videos to Facebook/socials you are in a safer place?

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          if you don’t have any family that posts videos to Facebook/socials you are in a safer place?

          You are safe only if you don’t have any people at all whom you trust.

          But then you are having some other problems…

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        The technology has clearly come a long way in a short time, really fascinating.

        I remember the first examples I read about being trained with celebrity read audiobooks because they needed so much audio data. I want to say Tom Hanks or Anthony Hopkins but I could have that confused with something else.

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      A current state of the art ai model from Microsoft can achieve acceptable quality with about 3 seconds of audio. Commercially available stuff like eleven labs about 30 minutes. But quality will obviously vary heavily but then again they’re using a low quality phone call so maybe not that important

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        That’s downright scary :-) I think it took longer in the last Mission Impossible.

        30 minutes is still pretty minimal for the kind of targeted attack it sounds like this is used for. I suppose we all need to work with our families on code words or something.

        I went in thinking the article was a bit alarmist, but that’s clearly not the case. Thank for the insight.

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        With that little, they may be able to recreate the timbre of someone’s voice, but speech carries a multitude of other identifiers and idiosyncrasies that they’re unlikely to get with that little audio, like personal vocabulary (we don’t choose the same words and phrasings for things), specific pronunciations (e.g. “library” vs “libary”), voice inflections, etc. Obviously, the more training data you have, the better the output.

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      I literally just cloned someone’s voice for a presentation on AI and did it using maybe 30 total minutes of audio…

      Took me about an hour and it was free. Hardest part was clipping the audio to get the ‘good bits.’

      The voice was absolutely convincing.

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      The most advanced Model I know just needs half an hour of your voice or sth.

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    The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.