• naalo@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    That is terrible. Obviously for both sides, but this is on another level. I feel bad for all the innocents that are slaughtered, and are going to be slaughtered because of this.

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        1 year ago

        I agree. This pot has been on and off the boil for decades, this latest boil over will be going for a while. I feel sickened by the thought of the news from the region in the coming weeks.

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      1 year ago

      Did you read the article? This is absolutely not the time for “both side” ism. It’s time to condemn a clear atrocity.

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        1 year ago

        I did and said it was on another level. Did you not read my comment?

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        1 year ago

        To what end? What sorts of events are more likely to occur if the entire western world decides that these were subhuman attacks and does not taint the condemnation with warnings of retributive death tolls?

        You likened this to someone questioning 9/11 in another comment, and that’s very right. After 9/11 the idea that “the Taliban” did atrocities and urging restraint was offensive led to 20 years of war and hundred of thousands of dead. When war fever is rising, the correct response is to tamp it down, not castigate people for saying “this is terrible, but we shouldn’t slaughter innocent people”.

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          The end is that babies were mass murdered. That is unequivocally BAD. And universally terrible. It’s something evil that, let’s say Nazis, terrorists do.

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            1 year ago

            Sure. And what does that have to do with not questioning the death of babies Israel is inflicting in response?

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              1 year ago

              And there’s the “what about”ism.

              Yeah… no. Killing babies is bad period mmmkay.

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                1 year ago

                That someone would mention the literal killing of babies by Israel is the whole fucking thing you were objecting to. Sorry to intrude on your righteous war fever with the small issue that the response is literally doing the thing you say is “bad period”.

                OP’s (and my) stance is that killing babies is bad, period. You’re the one who seems unhappy that the tragedy you want to think about is being related to the actual killings or children that are ongoing. They’re both fucking horrible, but you don’t seem to think the Palestinian children are also innocent and deserve to live as well.

                “These are monsters and don’t talk about what we’re doing in response” is the cry of the warmongers lusting for retribution.

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                  “worry you can’t point out the literal war crimes of one side of this three sided war, because one of the other three sides also commits them”

                  And if you point out the hypocrisy, you’re a nazi or anti-semite. Because apparently the government and military of the country of Israel represents ALL jews.

                  And I guess bothering to point out that the situation isn’t a simple “take out one group and MAGIC PEACE!” solution that people seem to be implying. Plus the fact that anybody slightly questioning the official story gets shit on when the official story is basically the exact excuse the GOVERNMENT (not the people) of Israel has been waiting for to get what they want, and have made no secrets about for decades.

                  Maybe if we hadn’t stuck our collective noses in it for the last 80 years, they’d be a lot better off.