• Echutaa@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    Man it’s almost like the US needs sweeping data privacy laws with strict and threatening fiscal consequences that scale with a companies gross income for any violations.

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    Shocking! A Chinese company lying, cheating and abusing users data. Impossible I say.
    Oh wait. It’s wholly expected.

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    2 years ago

    Chinese company storing user data in China is non-news unless I’m missing something.

    I suppose them “previously suggesting it was all on servers within America” and now admitting that that was false begs the question what else have they lied about?

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      Wasn’t the thing about banning TikTok about where they store US user data (and who can access it)?

      And afaik EU has similar rule for EU citizens? Someone who actually knows shit, please enlighten me.

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        The EU does have a law about it in GDPR (General Data Protection Regulations). The US doesn’t currently have any laws against it, but the US is going after China specifically.

        The US has made executive orders against software on edge routers, but nothing enforceable about end user data. There was an agreement Oracle would host TikTok’s American data to appease the US

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      2 years ago

      I have, and I’d genuinely be curious to know what data they have of mine and how it threatens national security.

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      This reminds me of the last week tonight episode with edward snowden.

      It was about privacy and the people interviewed didn’t care until the question was phrased if it were dickpics the government had access to.

      https://youtu.be/XEVlyP4_11M

      The interview with snowden starts around 14:00

      and the fragment about the dickpics around 25:00.

    • Red Wizard 🪄@lemmygrad.ml
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      Yes let’s not be like reddit:

      • I’ve looked for the “source” of the leaked guidelines from the Guardian, but I can not find them. They only say that someone from The Guardian has access to these leaks. The rest of the evidence of censorship is anecdotal at best, unless you have a more direct source.
      • Data collection is done by all in app browsers from major social media platforms, not just TikTok. Don’t believe me? Then let’s ask the guy who wrote the report. What’s the name of that report again? Oh it’s iOS Privacy: Instagram and Facebook can track anything you do on any website in their in-app browser. Why do none of the hundreds of articles mention that? It should be noted that as of this comment you can open any webpage in your native browser in TikTok. Seems strange to only be talking about TikTok in this regard.
      • Again, this article is citing something they have “obtained” and yet, won’t post for the public to consume. Unless you have the information the cnn is reporting on, we can’t know for sure what it even says. We know that the employees in question were fired apparently, and that the IP address used to connect to TikTok was viewed, but no information on the intentions and from what I can tell, nothing was published. Regardless, in a linked article from the CNN article, it’s mentioned that: Uber was delivering politicians a different version of their app to avoid regulations.. This information should make you outraged, but it won’t because the US media has decided this is not something you should worry about. There were no congressional hearings about this, no outrage, no endless news reports.

      There is a clear pattern here, and it’s one that shows just how little the American population cares about their own country exploiting them. There isn’t even clear evidence of exploitation in regards to TikTok. They appear to be engaging in all the same practices as US tech giants. Last I knew, China could just buy your data and use it for their own means. I mean, that’s what was happening with the Cambridge Analytica stuff right?

      You prevents Cambridge Analytica type events by regulating or abolishing Surveillance Capitalism in the US. Instead the US propaganda network has us talking about ghosts in TikTok’s shell.

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    2 years ago

    As opposed to Google storing private user data in the USA. No difference. Both are evil and both should be heavily regulated or shut down.

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    Let’s see, we have a screen name, and an email or phone number. Then we have all the public videos you post and the public videos you like. None of that is private personal information. The worst I could find is that you can give access to it to search your contacts for more TikTok users. Also, there is a chat feature. Maybe people are using the chat with an expectation that it is secure?

    I don’t like China either, but to get anything usable for espionage out of it China would have to set up AI systems that dig through the data looking for specific topics of conversation and then match those conversations to a list of users through the contacts list. I feel like it is a security risk, but far more relevant to Chinese citizens than US citizens, whom China has no control over. China has no reason to care if you talk shit about President Xi. For a Chinese citizen however, that is a different story.

    US firms such as Google, Facebook, and Snapchat have far more data about you. They literally know your location at any moment and the contents of your cell phone. They know the contents of your private text messages, private photos, and private videos. Google develops a profile about you that can literally predict where you will be at any time of the day and guess where you work (they also share some of this info with you). All of this data is presumably stored in the USA, the same country that actually has power over you, if you are American. It can also be subpoenaed at any time or the data can be just willingly shared en mass with the 3 letter agencies at any time.

    The TikTok boogeyman hides the actual personal data holders you should be concerned about.