• cogman@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Perhaps some facets of libertarianism are really fucked up?

    Slavery and child porn are debated by libertarians because the only way to address both is centralized government. However, since most (though not all) libertarians are opposed to any central government, they end up justifying with “well if you want to sell yourself as a slave, why should anyone stop you?”.

    But yeah, obviously it’s us that are aware of this who are the fucked up ones.

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      1 year ago

      Pretty sure the libertarian stance on slavery is that it is wrong, given the lack of liberty that slaves have. And the fact you can use a government to ensure nobody gets enslaved demonstrates the difference between a libertarian and an anarchist.

      The maximum amount of personal liberty does not come from zero government. It comes from having enough government to prevent people from enslaving other people.

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        1 year ago

        Pretty sure the libertarian stance on slavery is that it is wrong

        Libertarians are VERY individualistic (shocker) which means no 2 libertarians define libertarianism the same way.

        HOWEVER, you literally just have to search for “slavery libertarian” in the google box to find all sorts of fairly high profile libertarians arguing about how slavery can actually be a good thing that we should allow.

        For example, from Walter Block: http://www.kspjournals.org/index.php/JEST/article/view/346

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        1 year ago

        I’m curious what the downvotes are for… Are they saying there’s no helping them or even the thought of helping them is bad?

        Of literally all the kinds of people in the world with all the kinds of mental issues they could have, I’ve never seen more vicious hatred of a group than pedophiles. Not to defend them, but it could be as simple as having a sexual attraction but literally never acting on it, yet still I see “kill them, drag them by their genitals, let dogs eat them alive and pee on them” etc… that kind of absolute dehumanizing hatred. Even the sociopaths that are literally destroying the world get by with less violent hatred.

        Again, not defending pedophiles, I just think that if it’s an issue of mental help then they should be helped, not hunted.