• jet@hackertalks.com
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    • birth control
    • economic insecurity
    • extremely high cost of living
    • no social network to help with childcare
    • economic opportunities during child bearing years delay pregencies

    So if someone is going to have 11 kids (both my grandmothers actually) they need to get started early, hit the ground running. If, however, do to the above a couple gets started in their late thirties then few children will happen.

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    Not having kids if you can’t even support yourself properly.

    Maybe we should redistribute some of that 1% wealth.

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      I am supporting myself fine and I don’t want kids because I’d have to sacrifice the quality of life I’m living now. I couldn’t maintain my current quality of life financially with a kid even if time weren’t an issue.

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        This is the other thing. Not every millennial is scraping by, and many simply enjoy their current standard of living.

        I have kids of my own, and I love them, but they’re a lot of fucking work and expense, and the trajectory of your life is irreversibly changed. Kids aren’t some magical “make life better” toy that exist for our amusement, like some people seem to think.

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    honestly really tired of seeing these stupid “analysis” articles. people are not having kids because we don’t have the stability that generations before us had. this is not even uncommon, EVERY species needs to have stability to breed. you can’t put two people in a fucking house and say “ok have a kid” when those 2 people are paying some fucking landleach 4000/month for a 1 bedroom apartment, spending the other 200 dollars on whatever garbage food they can find, and then not afford anything else. who the fuck would be thinking “wow I should have more responsibility right now” ???

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    Kids are cute but if you haven’t thought about how your precious baby is gonna afford rent in 18 years which will probably be like $5K/mo for a sleep pod, then you’re a sadistic asshole.

    I feel absolute dread every time I see a small kid or a pregnant woman. That kid doesn’t deserve the shithole they’re getting into.

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      I’m not sure it will get that bad. Although, after accounting for inflation, you may not be far off on the price of such a “palace”.

      I strongly suspect that we are at the start of a “rebalancing” here in the US. We are starting to see it in the labor market. Fewer people seem to be heading for degrees that aren’t paying and are opting instead for the trades. Which, while good for them, the nation and the states, is going to kinda suck for me in a few years as the job market I’m in becomes more and more saturated and I get older and older.

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    “If I don’t do everything right, then my kid will end up living on my couch forever or be a serial killer. … I don’t know if or when I’ll have what it takes to be a ‘good’ parent."

    These are pretty much the words I’ve heard spoken. Especially when there’s a lack of a support system / a support system you trust to help raise the kid right. The fear of permanently screwing up some poor soul is real.

    I think stability is a pretty big factor too. It’s not just owning a house and having a job that pays the bills. It’s about being in a place where you feel able to really give the kid everything they will need, emotionally and monetarily, in the long term. If one can’t count on a job to see the humanity in people, or even pay a living wage, how can they trust that their employer won’t let them go if their “metrics” go to crap, or that they wont just drive them insane. It’s nice to think you can leave the baggage at the door, but I’ve definitely been employed at places that have permanently changed me as a person, and not for the better.

    Obviously, everyone has their own reasons for not wanting a child, but, at its core, it’s our screwed up society and what it demands from us, with so little of a return.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Every two years, the Census Bureau quietly appends a battery of fertility-related questions to its workhorse monthly questionnaire, the Current Population Survey, our go-to source for everything from the unemployment rate to Americans’ moving habits.

    Hammered by the Great Recession, soaring student debt, precarious gig employment, skyrocketing home prices and the covid-19 crisis, millennials probably faced more economic headwinds in their childbearing years than any other generation.

    And, unlike previous generations, millennials had the means to delay pregnancy thanks to affordable, long-acting birth-control options, said Alison Gemmill, a demographer at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

    If women are able to follow through on their delayed family plans, much of the rise in childlessness could be erased, according to a 2020 analysis of the same data set by Gemmill and Caroline Sten Hartnett of the University of South Carolina.

    These days, when the outlook may be even bleaker, there’s intense pressure to pump your kids up with every available ounce of organic superfood, superior schooling and extracurricular enrichment to give them a slim shot at getting ahead.

    So the decision to avoid having children may amount to a kind of performance anxiety in the face of intense expectations and weak governmental and social support, Guzzo said: “If I don’t do everything right, then my kid will end up living on my couch forever or be a serial killer.


    The original article contains 1,779 words, the summary contains 230 words. Saved 87%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      Just asking, but how would you have titled it?

      The article’s title wasn’t misleading. It contained what it said on the tin. Not it’s fault that we are slightly more well informed than many others.