Like others, I came over when Reddit was banning 3rd party apps. Many communities were being started and I wanted to help. So I chose one community to form here and try and grow. And we did! There was a time a short while in the little KC Chiefs community was in the top 100 communities on Lemmy world. I knew that wouldn’t last that we would be outpaced by many more broad appeal communities but I didn’t predict the reverse in engagement growth that has come. Stagnation sure, I didn’t think Lemmy was going to surpass reddit for a long while yet, but not the barren communities of today. Meme communities and the “small gripe” adjacent communities are doing fine, but it seems all others have shrunk. I tried to keep the Kerbal Space Program community active for a bit but had to return to the official forums and even subreddit for discussion. The post I made in the Go community here remains the only post in the community.
A platform led by a CEO who edits comments of users, lies about other professionals and then double downs on the lie when proven to be a liar can’t be trusted. And in general I prefer the decentralized open source backbone of Lemmy to the ad ridden, rage bait and bug filled Reddit. I’d love for this to be my full time home for discussing my niche interests but that’s not possible without others engaging with the content.
I posted a lot in the beginning, tried to comment a lot too but now it feels like talking to myself when I make a new post in the community I started and get few or no responses. What can be done? Community specific advice is nice, but I’m looking more for Lemmy World level solutions as I’m sure there’s many many other niche communities I’m not apart of experiencing the same thing.
Continue to spread Lemmy on other sites. Post Lemmy memes on Reddit, Instagram, etc. and be sure to include the original Lemmy link.
We can neither confirm nor deny that this is the way
I appreciate all you admins here, I really do. Far more transparent than from Reddit and you do it all without making profit.
The pinned post to Lemmy World sounded like (to me) that you recognize a lot of people signed up, made communities, and then have abandoned Lemmy leaving a lot of ghost communities that you all want to clean up. Totally understandable, especially with all the legal considerations about leaving online spaces unmoderated.
It just got me thinking about how Lemmy has changed, and how I really want it to succeed. I can try and follow this suggestion, but I almost feel like for a lot of the more niche interests, Lemmy will sort of just be in a holding mode until Reddit inevitably fumbles the ball again leading to a new migration, this time with a more clear destination.
Hey! I appreciate your input and totally agree🙂it’s not an easy process and we don’t expect it to happen too quickly, but we do believe that this platform will make it. And we’re trying to build a culture of transparency, kindness and support, which is made very achievable by amazing people like you!
part of the reason why some communities stick and some dont is because the type of people who were willing to jump to lemmy. Users who jumped to lemmy generally were more tech forward, privacy forward, or was part of some ostracized community not very welcome on reddit, as the typical casual user does not care for site politics.
its really hard to start a small community with one main poster, and requires a few to get the ball rolling. its a game of converting those in the niche communities to make the jump
Yeah I figured go/baduk would be a hard community to start, which is one of the reasons I chose the Chiefs.
But this isn’t just the difficulty of growing a community from a small start, this is seeing a community grow then shrink. Going through many niche communities the post rate and comment rate seems down across the board, outside of the biggest communities on the site. Combatting a shrinking community seems even more difficult than growing from a small start.
still part of the network effect – some users were willing to give up Reddit and start a new community on Lemmy but the rest of the community stayed behind – the ones heading back to Reddit are more about the community than about where it’s located
IMO, where lemmy is right now. Niche communities are counter productive. Especially as there is often 3 times the same niche communities on 3 different instances.
Try to talk about your niche content in a larger community. Talk about Oshi no ko in a generic manga/anime community. Try to talk about Kult RPG in a generic rpg community. Talk about french politics in a general France/Europe community.
Today we have generic community with like 10 posts a day and under them a bunch of niches with a post per week. Uf you move these posts to the general community above you now get 15 posts a day.
Content is what drags users, not yet another niche community.
Lemmy is still on the verge of usability, there is few very engaged user who make a large fraction of the content. Keeping it alive, but if in 6 month they have less time some /c will deperish
Content is what drags users, not yet another niche community.
Absolutely not, I had to make a post last week to find something that’s niche in reddit and not on lemmy because it had a sub and lemmy didn’t have a community on it. I always make posts on any niche community if I have to. I don’t mind whether it’s dead or not. I am sure many people feel that way too.
There’s always going to be an activity difference given the userbase gap, but it’s a mistake imho to see a slow-paced community as “dead”. As long as it has active subscribers, any post will get votes and comments from people who see it, even if it’s been weeks or months since the last post in that community. Slower-paced, but still there for whatever content gets posted.
I agree with this, but I think many subscribers are from accounts that are no longer active.
I’m not sure if the mod tools make this easier, but you could measure a community’s engagement by taking the total number of upvotes/downvotes comments for all posts, and dividing by the number of subscribers in the community. This would at least be a measurement to quantify a decline or steady state over time. Obviously perception matters, if people feel like a community is dead, they’ll leave, and it’ll be a self fulfilling prophecy.
Contribute to them and invite people.
Go chiefs! I’m from KC so it’s cool to see a community on lemmy—and I had no idea it existed until right now.
I feel the exact same way my friend. Even when lemmy was on the rise (when I joined), I knew that it wasn’t going to receive wide adoption. And unfortunately wide adoption is exactly what is needed to solve the problems you have mentioned.
As much as I love the idea of lemmy, I like the idea of community and connection more. I say go to the places where you find those things because that will be the most meaningful to you. You may find that for a more privacy and free thinking community on lemmy, but for other topics you probably have to go elsewhere. For now.
So go and connect with people over things that you love!
I saw a bunch of posts from @rglullis@communick.news promoting a project called fediverser which at first i thought was just like lemmit didn’t see the need for it. The main difference is that not just posts are imported into Lemmy, but also the comments. The idea is that for each reddit user who comments, that comment is added to a shadow profile in Lemmy and commented on the post. The idea being over time, the reddit users will have profiles in Lemmy already populated, that they can take ownership of, and don’t have to start from scratch finding an instance or creating an account.
Obviously everyone has their opinions of it, but maybe it’d work out for the Kerbal Space Program community, since Lemmy is more technically focused. This might remove a barrier of entry for new users joining your communities.
There are a few niche communities that are doing well here. The Trekkies that meme over at risa, the NCD crowd and their Military-Industrial Complex fetish, and the meme community in general is fairly healthy and active.
But I agree with you that there isn’t that critical mass that Reddit has that allows organic niche growth to occur. We’re simply too small. Even small Reddit communities like /r/Kenshi (131k) or /r/Factorio (347k) have more subscribers than the entirety of all Lemmy instances (60k). It’s impossible to compete when there is such a mismatch of scale, especially against behemoths like /r/funny with subscriber bases in the millions.
What can we do? Just keep making this place our home. Post interesting things you find on the Internet, copypasta memes, that sort of stuff. I don’t know if it’ll grow it but if enough of us do this it won’t stagnate.
Here’s some things Lemmy could potentially implement:
- a default sort that favors smaller communities
- better onboarding for new users that guides them into discovering new communities
- giving recommendations to other similar communities
