• NotAPenguin@kbin.social
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    How do you humanely kill an animal who doesn’t need or want to die?

    How does thanking someone after you needlessly kill them help anything?

    Why not just eat plants when we can easily thrive on a plant based diet?
    We aren’t “engineered” at all, we’re omnivores which means we can do just fine both with and without meat.

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      You hunt it. Not as a sport. Give the animal a fair chance, and even then it’s not a fair fight, so be thankful for what’s been provided

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        Killing when we don’t have to is cruel, doing it in the forest doesn’t make it better, we can just eat plants.

        There’s nothing fair about needless killing, nothing is provided to you, you’re taking it be force.

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          We are animals engineered to eat meat. It is natural for humans to do so. Killing an animal has nothing to do with morality. How and why it’s done does

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            We are animals who happened to mutate to be able to thrive with and without meat, we’re omnivores.

            If we are animals and killing animals has nothing to do with morality I can kill you with no consequences and without feeling bad yeah?

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              Like I said, why you do it and how it’s done matters. What’s your reason for killing me? For this discussion of course.

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                Let’s say I thought your corpse would taste good and provide me with sustenance for a while and I killed you painfree and instantly.

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                  Then that’s not a good reason. “Because it’s good” doesn’t justify the kill. For survival? Sure, I’d give that a pass, even though I’d defend myself. I would understand the situation. And people have done this.

                  If you have this “no-kill” stance for animals, you need to have it for everything, including insects. I’m not saying you don’t, because I don’t really know, but I do know that’s often overlooked or ignored.

                  A life is a life.

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                    It’s literally the same argument you’re using.

                    You don’t need to eat animals for survival.

                    I don’t kill insects on purpose.

                    Yes a life is a life and shouldn’t be wasted because you think corpses taste good.

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                    A life is a life.

                    Plants too are living beings. Cutting them, letting them starve without their roots, dissecting it in various parts to be sold…

                    Why don’t we think about it? Are we so extremely sure plants don’t feel any type of pain, not even a much different pain that animals can’t understand?

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              You are trolling at this point. You simply can’t compare killing for food to murder.

              We are predators by nature, and there is no way you can deny it. The human intelligence has helped us evolve better tools for both hunting and farming.

              We have mutated to be better hunters and predators, apart from being also better at not being one. But the first part will always remain.