Australian lawmakers have banned the performance of the Nazi salute in public and outlawed the display or sale of Nazi hate symbols such as the swastika in landmark legislation that went into effect in the country Monday. The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.
The crime of publicly performing the Nazi salute or displaying the Nazi swastika is punishable by up to 12 months in prison, according to the Reuters news agency.
Mark Dreyfus, Australia’s Attorney-General, said in a press release Monday that the laws — the first of their kind in the country — sent “a clear message: there is no place in Australia for acts and symbols that glorify the horrors of the Holocaust and terrorist acts.”
Good. We should do the same in the US too.
Should do the same in every nation on earth, nazism cannot be allowed to flourish again. The cost of life is too high
It’s weird that I have to say this but this should also be done in Latin America.
Like, no, you’re not Aryan, you’re just pale. And you’re not even pale! Wtf, you’d be the first one in the gas chambers, Pedro Contreras.
This reminds me of that black white supremacist skit.
Then Chapelle got rich and decided to go full right wing
It seems like they all do. Or for some at least they always were but pretended to avoid being cancelled before having enough money to not care.
We need to shut down the stand up venues until we figure what the fuck is going on
God help you if you’re just generally not interested in watching the fuckin thing, every “free speech absolutist” within a three mile radius comes down on you for not supporting Dave over “just jokes!”
Bro calm your stiffy I just don’t care about the guy cause it’s, yknow, 2024.
Honestly, it’s worse, if you’re thinking of the Chappelle’s Show skit. At least the character Clayton Bigsby is also blind so he literally doesn’t know he’s actually white.
Because they believe in many of the same “traditional values” as nazis – they’re natural allies.
Of course those dipshits don’t realize the nazis only want their help now because they’re desperate for numbers. As soon as the nazis no longer need their help they’re getting their own Night of the Long Knives.
IDK if there’s a name for the logical fallacy but I always think it’s bonkers how people who throw in with hate as an ideology never think it’ll fall on them at some point, especially as a non-(white/cis/male/whatevs.)
There’s alot of anti trans gay people throwing in with the right because they are too - never once think after the trans are banned that they’d come next, not like that’s half the right’s thing or anything.
Original Position Fallacy.
It is banned in Brazil though, but it’s hard to prosecute when the police itself has sympathizers in it that didn’t want to take in custody a dude with a nazi tattoo:
https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2023/01/29/homem-com-tatuagens-e-levado-para-delegacia-e-liberado-testemunha-fala-em-intimidacao-por-policial.ghtml
And Canada should as well.
Technically it is illegal here in Canada.
I work in set Decoration in Canada and dealing with Nazi paraphernalia has a whole documentation process. There’s a handful of prop houses in the States that traffics in the stuff and the paperwork to import it has to be very carefully handled or else it gets seized at the border. Once the stuff is owned by the production company it must be kept under lock and key when it is not onset and removing it from the set or the lockup without proper signed off on authorization is a firing offence.
It’s depressing that we have to jump through so many hoops for a stupid symbol that should have been relegated to a laughing stock of losers in the past.
Sadly, we’ve got a whole new wave of young losers with plastic / lead brain rot that made them susceptible to this shit.
Just look at those two morons in the article…
The recent round of anti semitism incidents has nothing to do with nazis, though, I suspect the same in Australia, this is probably politicians bring politicians more than anything.
It’s not even antisemitism related.
My state did this already last year and it’s to combat the alt-right/white supremacists. Jewish people don’t really factor into it as much as their hate for Muslims/Black people.
Trying to tie into Oct 7th and antisemitism seems like a bit of propaganda.
Not really. Just look at the news.
Hate speech is protected in America.
It very literally is not. If you’re referring to “free speech”, that’s a whole other thing.
Still, it is pretty patchwork and ambiguous. Almost got that flag-burning amendment though! Member that one? Before ‘gay marriage’ and ‘the war on Christmas’ we had ‘flag-burning’ as a very srs point of intellectual ‘discussion’.
Incorrect, the supreme court has many times over ruled “hate speech”, which doesn’t have a legal definition in the US, is protected under 1st amendment. Calling for violence is not.
I am free to say “I hate [insert protected class/person/group/etc]” without legal consequences.
Although I am technically free to say “Let’s cause harm to/attack [insert protected class/person/group/etc]”, legal consequences could follow since call to violence.
Agreed. Hence the issue with “hate speech” in quotes.
(Tl;dr: incitement to violence and harassment are not protected speech)
I seem to recall that when southern states wanted to prosecute Martin Luther King, Jr for “hate speech” on the theory that his calls for equality amounted to anti-white racism, the way SCOTUS dealt with that was by punting on the question of what hate speech is or isn’t.
By taking the ‘hate speech’ stick away from states, the high court effectively ruled that Nazis had the right to rallies under the rubric of free speech. It was this optimistic dithering on the court’s part (surely, the way forward is free speech and everybody will use that in good faith right?) that is part of why the US’s stance on hate speech diverged from that of Europe and the commonwealth
Let’s change that then.
Where the first speech absolutists at?
No seriously, there are persuasive arguments for protecting speech that is utterly abhorrent… who remembers their John Stuart Mill well enough to chime in?
They’re buying social media platforms and censoring speech they don’t like
They said free speech absolutists not posers
Now imagine Trump or someone like him is deciding what’s hate speech.
No. Fuck that.
Have you lived in the US since 2016? Sure as fuck feels pretty free.
Nope. It is. Using racial slurs and displaying a swastika and sieg heiling is very much protected by the 1st Amendment.
What?
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Authoritarianism is never a good idea, even when used against authoritarians.