Particularly, why are they so desperately pushy about it? WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE IN IT FOR THEM???
I would understand if I was having to pay for the upgrade. Then, ya know, they would be MOTIVATED by the fucking PROFIT MOTIVE.
But it’s an apparently entirely free upgrade. So please, could someone fill in these blanks for me: “Microsoft wants me to upgrade to Windows 11 (and then 12) because _______. They will directly (or even indirectly) benefit in the following ways: ______________________”
Now, I’m not a complete fucking moron. I realize that they want to close out support for Windows 10. But that doesn’t explain the out-and-out salesmanship that’s going on, every time the fuckers try to get me to upgrade.
A couple other things, before you even start yapping at me:
First off, I will only upgrade to Windows 11 or 12 when I am absolutely forced to do so, on the day that Windows 10 becomes unsupported, and will therefore become a security risk.
NOTHING will convince me to “upgrade” my operating system before that date. Nothing. I don’t care what you have to say. You WILL fail to persuade me. Don’t even make the attempt.
In my opinion, Windows 7 should have been the last version of the OS. It should just have been patched forever, until some kind of major revolution in the whole basis of computing finally made its entire architecture fundamentally obsolete.
Updating an operating system is beyond drudgery, and each “upgrade” adds completely counter-productive, worse-than-useless bloat and nonsense. There is nothing to be excited about, when a new version of any operating system comes out. They should literally stop coming out.
Second, I’m not switching to Linux. I have used Linux in the past, for specific tasks and specific situations, but it will NEVER be my primary operating system, on my primary PC.
Do not bother trying to convince me to switch. Again: you WILL fail to persuade me. Do not waste your time. Linux is always 80-90 percent of the way toward being a true turn-key, user-friendly solution, especially for someone who has a long history of using Windows software, for both work and gaming. And 90 percent good simply isn’t good enough.
The learning curve isn’t worth it. No, I don’t want to hear anything you have to say about that. I’m not interested in how good the current version of whatever Linux branch has gotten. Do not bother. I promise you, I will not be reading it.
EDIT: if you even mention Apple, I will just laugh in your face.
I asked for an explanation, but I got a lecture. Which I fucking knew that I would.
But at least it was a short lecture. Short enough that I bothered reading it, so I guess you got that much over on me. Congrats, I suppose.
I won’t be switching to Linux, though. I am not interested in fixing that last 10%. That’s always what the Linux (and open-source) crowd always wants: at least a little bit of completely free labor, from everyone.
ngl you come off very toxic. You asked a question that you know 100% the answer to. You made sure with strong words to kill all meaningful solutions to your problem. And responded to this guy pointing out the flaw in your ideology very aggressively.
I honestly didn’t 100 percent know the answer. I was seriously wondering if there was some direct, specific reason that I hadn’t thought of. But it’s just the boring speculation that I could have done. I agree I shouldn’t have bothered.
As for toxicity, sure. I’m toxic. The world is toxic. It’s the new fashion. I believe we are all bearing witness to the Great Filter that keeps all civilizations from achieving high technology and exploring the universe (read up on the concept). The “filter” is simply ourselves. We fucking suck.
In essence, intelligence itself was nature’s greatest mistake. Awareness is a curse. All is vanity. We’re cresting the peak of our achievements, as naked apes, and we will shortly begin the painful process of erasing all our gains, and returning to dust. Good riddance, and I mean that. We are not a good thing for the planet, nor for ourselves.
But I don’t have to be all sweetness and light about any of it.
Instead of responding to whatever this AI esque auto generated thing is, I’m just going to say: rule 14.
This sub merely asks for questions but instead we got a wall of indignant text about how you will pre-ignore any solutions to your complaint.
Read my question again. I was not asking for “solutions.” I was not asking for tech support. I was asking for the REASON behind Microsoft specifically wanting people to agree to a free upgrade of their OS.
Read through my replies. I have been entirely receptive and cordial toward any speculation on that topic.
What I didn’t want was advice. Or lectures. Or solutions. On the one hand, I was so clear about that point that you referred to my post as a “wall of indignant text.” On the other hand, I guess my wall of text wasn’t big enough, because you still didn’t understand the question.
Again: I was asking about the whys and the hows of the situation. Not solutions to it. And plenty of people have provided good answers.
Ask your doctor if Xanax is right for you.
As I mentioned to someone else, look at the world we’re living in. Mood-altering drugs are for situations when nothing is wrong, but you’re sad and numb anyway.
But, ya know, that’s not the case. Look around. Everything is wrong. We all have good reasons to be sad, numb, furious, tired, etc. Therefore, it’s inappropriate to drug ourselves into feeling slap-hap-fuckin’-happy.
That would be like getting into a motorcycle accident, noticing your leg is shattered, with bones sticking out of the skin, and saying “I guess I’ll take morphine forever. As long as I’m feelin’ fine, it’s alllll good.”
No. Not good. Pain and rage are the appropriate and logical responses to our situation. Medicating ourselves into not feeling those perfectly appropriate emotions would just be drug abuse. If I want to abuse drugs, I’ll get them off the street, and pay a way more reasonable price than my health insurance would suck out of my wallet, for their approved happy-feel-good drugs.
As someone else said, you sound super toxic, and frankly, insufferable. I’ve had friends like you. They are exceedingly tiresome people to be around.
:D That was me! Anyways it seems like you two would go on forever. I also said “rule 14” to him. The 14th rule of the internet is: “Do not argue with trolls — it means that they win.”
Calling people “toxic” for telling the truth is the most annoying thing about Gen Z. You guys never would have launched any of the necessary revolutions and societal upheavals of history, because you’d just shoot the messenger.
“That Thomas Paine guy is so toxic. I don’t have enough spoons to deal with his aggro bullshit.”
Lol, I’m not Gen Z, bud. And calling your screeds “telling the truth” is quite the stretch. Most of them are just indignant bitching. Yes, we know, there are problems. The bitching is excruciating, especially when you’re the one who keeps poking your own wounds rather than bandaging them.
For most people who claim to be as observant and clued in as yourself, starting a thread like this and being almost universally panned would prompt some self reflection. I hope this is true for you, too.
But it’s true. They (like everyone else) want to sell you their newest product. That is how capitalism works. That’s how they make money. But here it’s the other way around. You are the product. Still, you need to be upgraded to the newest version, so the newest data trickles in, the newest advertising is possible.
You seem a bit agitated. But it is how it is. Pick your poison. Be it Windows 10, 11, MacOS or Linux.
I have the misfortune to be living in 2024. If you are not agitated, you are not paying attention.
And I suppose I was looking for a more specific answer than really exists, for this situation. From Microsoft’s perspective, they need me to upgrade, so that I can be part of the current version of their money-sucking system. Whatever. I’ll do it. Who even cares.
On the contrary, I’m paying very good attention. And I’m well prepared. I watch all that mess from far away, and just boot my windows four times a year. That’s annoying enough for me.
Yeah, you can’t look for the answer that pleases you. At least not if objective reality exists. You either look for an answer that is true, or you don’t need to bother looking if you know what you want to believe beforehand.
Your agitation is largely self-induced, as you stomp your feet and whine like a toddler denied his toy rather than mitigating it like an adult. Microsoft is a business. Their motivation is to deliver as little value to the user as possible while making as much money as possible. This has been this way since they won the IBM DOS contract and no longer had to compete on their product alone. You can whine, or you can use something else that better aligns with your needs and values as a user.
Lots of people care.
It’s surprising that you’d give up so easily considering you were motivated enough to make an insightful post about the whole matter.
What answer would have satisfied you? You started off aggressive and combative in the OP, then acted surprised when you were met in kind.
That’s fine but you asked why it’s free and it’s free to you because you are the product.
If you don’t want to be the product it’s up to you to change the situation. Linux, Unix, Mac, Android are all options even if they are not options that interest you.