IVF often produces more embryos than are needed or used.

Frozen embryos are “children,” according to Alabama’s Supreme Court::IVF often produces more embryos than are needed or used.

  • BaronVonBort@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    My wife and I had our son via IVF. We wanted every single one of our fertilized eggs to work, but they didn’t. We had one that did and we suffered every time one didn’t.

    Fuck Alabama for adding on to the torment and emotional suffering families going through IVF and any kind of infertility suffer already. It’s just adding unspeakable cruelty again.

    • essteeyou@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      10 months ago

      I’ve seen my sister going through this process for years. It’s emotionally challenging, financially challenging, and risky to her health. She’s had two ectopic pregnancies and had to be operated on twice. If she manages to have one baby she’ll be happy, and there’s no way it would make sense to implant all the other embryos given the health risk to her. So what would Alabama have her do?

      I’m glad she doesn’t live there.

        • Jojo@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          I have heard someone say in all seriousness that it’s still murder to abort an ectopic pregnancy (which would just kill the mom and ‘child’ if allowed to continue)…

  • sacredfire@programming.devEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    I heard this somewhere: “You’re in an IVF clinic. It’s on fire and you enter a burning room. On a table is a large cooler with 5 thousand fertilized eggs, and there’s also a crying, injured five-year-old girl in the room. Which one do you save? You can only save one.” The answer for most people is obviously the 5 year old and it’s not a hard choice.

      • rambaroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        10 months ago

        Muslims don’t believe that life starts at conception. So no, on this topic they are not as idiotic as Christians.

          • rambaroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            0·
            10 months ago

            Turkey and Kazakhstan. And this is just racist bs. Not all Muslims hate Jews or have regressive views. Not to mention this is all off topic, it’s Christians who are trying to destroy women’s rights in America not Muslims

              • rambaroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                0·
                10 months ago

                Turkey isn’t much worse than countries like Hungary or Poland when it comes to democracy. And Kazakhstan is in the middle of democratic reform

                Also I like how you ignored the rest of my comment. But not surprised

                Edit: and people were shitting on Christianity because Christians have huge amounts of power in the US. Far more than Muslims do in any western country. It’s Christians trying to destroy secular rights in the West. You brought up Muslims for no reason other than to deflect

  • SteelCorrelation@lemmy.oneEnglish
    0·
    10 months ago

    I love how the chief justice cites his god as his legal argument. What a sham. The god of the Bible has, thus far, failed to prove its legitimacy in any context, especially regarding a secular legal system.

    • bobs_monkey@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Nevermind forcing his god onto the rest of the population. If these yoyos get far enough, they’ll start sending non believers to “reeducation camps.”

    • erwan@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      I would think his reference to god would be a sufficient argument to nullify his decision? As you said the US justice system is secular.

  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    10 months ago

    Then they should count as dependents, grant the parents tax breaks, be eligible for social benefits, receive child support payments, be counted as passengers when in mom driving in HOV lanes, etc.

  • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
    11·
    10 months ago

    Every woman with a frozen embryo.

    Get those child tax credits.

    Don’t have frozen embryos? Freeze some

    Get those child tax credits

  • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    10 months ago

    In a concurring opinion, Chief Justice Tom Parker cited his religious beliefs and quoted the Bible to support the stance.

    “Human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God, who views the destruction of His image as an affront to Himself,” Parker wrote. “Even before birth, all human beings bear the image of God, and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory.”

    wtf

      • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
        11·
        10 months ago

        The USA has never done seperation of church and state.

        If we did, half the govt would be arrested for extremism and most churches would be terrorist organizations.