Essa Al-Nassr, a member of the Qatari legislative Shura council, spoke on Monday at an Arab League session, received ovation making bigoted accusations against Jews and promising the end of Israel.

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      Faith is fine and I encourage it. Organized religion corrupts. These assholes need to check themselves.

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        I’m increasingly believing that nothing is worse for the human brain than believing you’re righteous except for power. Organized religion isn’t the root of this but a handy and convenient way to combine the two

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      Quatar is famous for its neutrality, even in this conflict. US aid to Israel in part flows through US bases in Quatar, just miles from where Hamas leaders live. I haven’t exactly been keeping a close eye on them but I’m wondering what changed to make them say this. It’s not like they had any great concern for the plight of the Palestinians before this .

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      Here’s the part I’m super confused by considering a Muslim is saying this. Muhammad was supposed to be the last prophet of God. He died all the way back in 632 after complaining of a headache.

      So I’m pretty sure any prophet deaths they’re blaming on the Jews don’t involve any Jews that are alive today and maybe this guy should focus on what the IDF is doing rather than this religious bullshit involving Jews as a whole.

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        From the article:

        The accusation of Jews as ‘killers of prophets’ is a well-known antisemitic trope made in several Islamic texts, which is understood by many, including Al-Nassr himself, as a charge against the entire Jewish people valid for eternity.

        This allegation is reminiscent and perhaps reflective of the charge of deicide by which Jews were accused in classical Christian texts.

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          valid for eternity

          I’m pretty sure the sun is going to engulf the Earth in 5 billion years. There probably won’t be any Jews left by then because humans would have evolved into something else by then anyway.

          Maybe Allah should be reconsulted.

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              I don’t think we’re at the point where we’re going to wipe out the species entirely. I think it’s likely that even a global thermonuclear war would result in enough pockets of survivors for the species to continue evolving (with quite serious selection pressure at that point) even if society as a whole lies in unrecoverable ruin.

              My searching for minimum viable population size puts it all over the map, although the general consensus seems to be 50 people. But who knows? The California condor has gone from a low of 22 individuals to over 500 in just a handful of generations.

              Anyway, I can certainly see 50 humans on some remote part of the planet surviving such a catastrophe.

              Civilization? Maybe not. Maybe those 50 humans would evolve into something less intelligent and less able to achieve the level of technology we are able to achieve. There’s no reason selection always has to favor intelligence.

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                I agree. I actually think the only things that could legitimately wipe out humanity are cosmic things we have no control over and it’d have to be so significant that there’s little chance of it actually happening. (Until the sun’s red giant phase, anyway.)

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                My guess is there’ll be a very few Indigenous enclaves that will survive, if for no other reason than they fundamentally understand what community is and how to keep it strong.

                Our Westernized ideology that “only the strongest win” doesn’t work in an end-of-the-world scenario.

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        Islam includes many Jewish and Christian figures among their numerous prophets. (They believe Mohammed to be the last among them). That includes John the Baptist and Jesus himself (and possibly more). Since Jews had a hand in their death, that could be the reason why they make this claim.

        While they’re partially correct, this antisemitic trope ignores a lot of context and nuances. For example, Jesus himself was a Jew and so were his initial followers. And there are strong reasons to believe that his crucifixion was a vicious threat towards the Jews of Judea. John’s story also has similar nuances. Unfortunately, all those contexts are neglected while creating the propaganda narrative of the evil Jew.

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    My imaginary tale is more real than YOUR imaginary tale.

    A tale as old as time…

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    This is a rather strong statement. I’m glad not to participate in that part of the world with any of the people involved. They really are not my cup of tea.

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    It’s not to excuse this kind of thing, because it’s monstrous, but you can draw a line from this rhetoric to Netanyahu’s actions.

    He’s put a target on the backs of the entire Jewish diaspora.

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      That’s the infuriating thing about this whole mess that feels impossible to solve.

      Rhetoric like this directly radicalizes Israelis and pushes them towards violent escalation, which then radicalizes Palestinians into violence as well, further inspiring more Israeli violence, and on and on the cycle goes.

      And then anyone who advocates for any amount of moderation will simultaneously get called a terrorist sympathizer for not wanting to nuke Gaza and a genocide accomplice for not wanting to forcibly remove or kill every Israeli.

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        Assholes, assholes everywhere. Islamist assholes, Zionist assholes , christian assholes trying to get the apocalypse going so they can be raptured. Capitalist Media assholes getting clicks from public outrage. And a whole of other asshole I’m not even aware of. We have laws about what kind of killing is acceptable. Those law were negotiated by people with zero chance of being subjected to lawful murder.

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      Especially given that last year most of the Gulf states had/were in the process of normalizing and publicizing diplomatic ties with Israel. Qatar has always been the odd one out in the Gulf, but the fact that these disgusting comments were lauded speaks to how much damage Netanyahu has done in such a short time.

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        It’s on purpose.

        Nothing creates unity like a shared enemy, and there’s no better shared enemy than Every One That’s Not Us™️.

        It’s why a lot of religious groups generate persecution complexes- it keeps people from leaving the fold.

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    That’s not especially helpful, but A for effort I guess?

    Edit: Am I being downvoted because I think antisemitism isn’t helpful or am I being downvoted because of the “I guess you tried” second part?

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      I think a band of tankie bots sweeps through about 6 hours after a post and downvotes everyone. It seems to balance out about 12h later.

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        Could be. I just wish people would explain why they are downvoting. I don’t care that six people downvoted me (as of now), I just want to know their reasoning.

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      What effort? To make the whole shitshow a bit worse? They had an option to do nothing, and they said this?

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        So, is it right to commit genocide because of another genocide that exists only in your mind?

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          A person suggesting genocide as a solution is a dangerous idiot; a country actually performing war crimes that make the whole world wonder if they are commiting genocide needs to be stopped.

          I don’t want to debate the semantics of genocide, I just want them to stop murdering everything that moves, destroying all infrastructure, and starving an entire population.

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            How could we execute this in such a way that it cannot be considered genocide but extinction? Perhaps a faulty experimental satellite somehow tows an asteroid and turns the nazionist cities into sodom and Gomorrah like in their fairy tales? Surely that counts as just good old extinction event instead. /S

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            A person suggesting genocide as a solution is a dangerous idiot

            Agree.

            Nothing about war is pleasent.

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      Seems like you’ve just misinterpreted that sign?

      Like yeah, it’s not a great sign - partly because it’s easy for people like you to intentionally misinterpret - but it’s pretty clear it’s saying that the Israeli killing of 1.5% of the population of Gaza, and displacement of 85% is a genocide.

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              You know it’s going to be good when you link a tweet from someone who called people paedophiles in retaliation for saying he was racist, got sued for slander and lost!

              There’s a difference between “the court didn’t determine it was plausible” (ie the court didn’t assess its plausibility) and “it isn’t plausible”

              So you can’t use it as proof that it isn’t a genocide, because that’s not what she said at all.

              As you say: but nice try, I guess! It’s a shame I’m literate!

              Next time, I recommend actually watching your source rather than regurgitating what the racist says 👍

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                She is or was the head of the International Criminal Court. I think she explained their odecision and doesn’t need your parsing. You Ave no there there.

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                  I’m well aware who she is - but as I said, and you clearly failed to comprehend, she didn’t say what you think she did

                  You Ave no there there

                  I was joking about the literacy thing but…

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        I checked the modlog and all he said was “Bullshit terrorist propaganda”

        How is that homophobic and why should he get banned for it?

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          It may have been edited, or you could be seeing another comment. Trust me, it was pretty disgusting on a number of levels, including homophobia and Islamophobia at least.

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              I’m not sure what you hope to gain here. I have seen the comment, in fact can still see the comment due to my notifications. No one who saw the vile comment is going to repeat it for your benefit - there is a reason that it was removed. I have no idea what you are seeing, or the context. I’m not sure why it would look different. If you are concerned, PM a mod of the community to fill you in.

              Edit: I just saw that someone did in fact repeat it for your benefit. So never mind. I hope you thank them for taking the risk of repeating it.