• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    8 months ago

    homosexual dictatorships

    I mean… I’m cishet, but I’m willing to give it a go. Probably better than what we have around here.

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    8 months ago

    It has long been a Christian lobby rallying cry that the mere mention of homosexuality will bring about their imagined “homosexual dictatorship”, a prophecy that includes crumbling family structures, crashing birth rates, an AIDS pandemic, and gay soldiers surrendering en masse to a North Korean invasion.

    Ah, yes, this is a very important issue to South Korea. They wouldn’t want to lose their position as the -let me check the notes- second country in the world with the lowest birth rate. Rigid and traditional gender roles are working great for them so far, it’s not like men and women hate each other over there or anything.

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      My question is, why do we constantly lend credence to their hateful ideas? Why constantly report on how they feel as if they’re the standard bearer of…—well, as if their opinion even mattered? We don’t get constant updates when other hateful organizations are upset over the people they try to oppress. Normalize ignoring these people.

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          It depends on what you’re saying. People—especially people from the US—very quickly move from/confuse criticizing Islam as an inherently flawed organized religion to straight up Islamophobia. After 9/11 Islamophobia was pretty much institutionalized, so most US people online today either grew up in that or grew up in a more racist/intolerant time because they’re older.

          There is a difference. But people don’t know how to deal in nuance on the internet. So “hey, I think Israel is committing genocide” gets funneled into straight up antisemitism. The same is true for criticizing Islam. Or any religion. Or any thing. People try to out-righteous each other and end up on the wrong side of prejudice. Well…I guess there’s no right side of prejudice. But you know what I mean.

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            The only thing I disagree with is your use of the word “confuse”. They aren’t confused, they know what they are doing. It really isn’t that hard to keep two ideas in your head

            • People should be allowed to have whatever religion they want
            • Religions are shit

            Islam has the second highest body count of any religion. More people have died from it than every religion of humanity accept Christianity. It is fundamentally, on the text level, a violent faith. That doesnt mean anything about people born into it. You can have a violent god and not be a violent person.

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              I dunno. Maybe I just think people are dumber and more susceptible to crafting an online identity that is “more” than other people with the same identity. But who knows, maybe you’re right and people know they’re being racist, antisemitic, etc.

              What’s that old saying? Never assume malice when ignorance is possible? Something to that effect. I think people get so lost (completely unwittingly) in crafting their online identities. They see people or outlets they like pushing a certain viewpoint, and these people naturally want to be more of that identity. It’s being completely unoriginal, unthinking while also craving “unique” identity within the circles they see. They want those upvotes, those likes, that engagement, and see 60% of a concept, so lean toward 100%—the problem with this stupid kind of thinking is that 60% is a just, humanistic view (or, on the right, an angry, couched view) while 100% is full blown prejudice.

              There’s no one answer, but I firmly believe this accounts for a good amount of the ignorance we see online these days.

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          I’ve seen a lot of criticism towards Islam from positions of defending secularism and opposing fanaticism, which I think is neat. If I see someone attacking Muslims from positions of bigotry, I don’t think that’s so neat. Do you understand the difference?

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    8 months ago

    Christian missionaries and post-Korean War Americanization have wrought some truly terrible things on Korea.

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      Where? I read the article but didn’t spot it

      E: oh wait it’s on the first picture. Can’t tell if yikes or just your standard religious symbol…

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    you’d think south korean radical christians would be more concerned about the rampant sexism and misogyny that’s plaguing the country

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      No Christ is exceedingly sexist. There’s literally instructions on how hard you can beat your wife and with what in the Bible.