Absolutely wild that they looked at what happened at Twitter, identified all the things that triggered the several periods of mass migration to Mastodon (shutting off api access, policy changes, shutting down conversation about alternatives) and decided to speed run it. Next thing is trying to directly monetise people by giving them a red tick or something.
Absolutely wild that they looked at what happened at Twitter, identified all the things that triggered the several periods of mass migration to Mastodon (shutting off api access, policy changes, shutting down conversation about alternatives) and decided to speed run it. Next thing is trying to directly monetise people by giving them a red tick or something.
Same exact thing happened with Fark around 2007 with regards to the redesign. “You’ll get over it,” one infamous mod quipped. Except now Fark is a hollow shell of what it used to be. Barely a footnote in internet history.
The efforts to extinguish dissent (over the redesign and tightening of content moderation, eg, boobies, despite showing racy ads with… yep, boobies) went so far as to even using similar words to what had been regular injokes and memes on Fark would get you banned for “spam”, promoting another site, etc… Just because another site popped up called Bannination (dot) com. (Edit: Domain expired, now a blogspam/squat site. Broke domain name to prevent linking)
What then was once limited to Fark and Fark threads extended to edit wars on Wikipedia. Because, at first, there was a subsection on Fark’s wiki page that covered common injokes, terms and filtered substitutions (fuck becomes fark, being banninated/going to bannination, shadowbans, etc) was now claimed to be a haven for ‘people trying to spam Bannination’ as an alternate site to go to. However, only Bannination was the site being objected to, not Digg or Reddit. The whole situation showed me that even Wikipedia would be subject to the corrosive effects of those who think they had power to control a community.
And it’s the same damn shit in the end, hubris and ego leading to this. Doubling down only leads to an accelerated decline.
When any community won’t tolerate telling people about other communities or tries to tell you where you can or cannot go, it’s time to get the fuck out and never look back.
Reddit is shifting from user-focused to investor-focused and AI-focused. It doesn’t matter what users think. They have done their job. They can all literally quit the site today, and it still doesn’t sink Reddit’s plans. Reddit has no reason to care what any user thinks anymore. Those days are over.
Probably depends on how you define success with these things. The valuation of the company is down a significant amount since it was purchased and recent reports had ad revenue also down a significant amount too. Whether the owner cares about those things is probably up for debate, and evidence would suggest he might be looking for something other than money out of it, like influence, or just a play thing. I’m not sure the owners of Reddit are motivated by the same things, I think they just want to be richer. Time will tell I guess, it’s difficult to tell the difference between incompetence and intentional acts from the outside.
I mean, there’s an argument to be made that reddit was going down this path long before Twitter, what with their hosting and perhaps even promotion of r/t_d
My assumption all along is that the new API pricing thing was in preparation for a backpedal where they implement a paid tier for users that includes third party app access
Very plausible, but they can screw off with that psychological game bullshit. I am tired of everything being about profits these days. I want the early 2000s internet back!
Centralization needs to die, and community collaboration needs to take its place so stuff like that stops happening.
A single entity made a single decision, killing countless devs years of work in an instant.
Absolutely wild that they looked at what happened at Twitter, identified all the things that triggered the several periods of mass migration to Mastodon (shutting off api access, policy changes, shutting down conversation about alternatives) and decided to speed run it. Next thing is trying to directly monetise people by giving them a red tick or something.
Same exact thing happened with Fark around 2007 with regards to the redesign. “You’ll get over it,” one infamous mod quipped. Except now Fark is a hollow shell of what it used to be. Barely a footnote in internet history.
The efforts to extinguish dissent (over the redesign and tightening of content moderation, eg, boobies, despite showing racy ads with… yep, boobies) went so far as to even using similar words to what had been regular injokes and memes on Fark would get you banned for “spam”, promoting another site, etc… Just because another site popped up called Bannination (dot) com. (Edit: Domain expired, now a blogspam/squat site. Broke domain name to prevent linking)
What then was once limited to Fark and Fark threads extended to edit wars on Wikipedia. Because, at first, there was a subsection on Fark’s wiki page that covered common injokes, terms and filtered substitutions (fuck becomes fark, being banninated/going to bannination, shadowbans, etc) was now claimed to be a haven for ‘people trying to spam Bannination’ as an alternate site to go to. However, only Bannination was the site being objected to, not Digg or Reddit. The whole situation showed me that even Wikipedia would be subject to the corrosive effects of those who think they had power to control a community.
And it’s the same damn shit in the end, hubris and ego leading to this. Doubling down only leads to an accelerated decline.
When any community won’t tolerate telling people about other communities or tries to tell you where you can or cannot go, it’s time to get the fuck out and never look back.
Yeah Genevieve Marie ruined Fark for me. That’s when I went to Reddit. Now I’ve left Reddit for completely different reasons.
Reddit is shifting from user-focused to investor-focused and AI-focused. It doesn’t matter what users think. They have done their job. They can all literally quit the site today, and it still doesn’t sink Reddit’s plans. Reddit has no reason to care what any user thinks anymore. Those days are over.
Technically it has kinda worked out for Twitter though. They still have a sizable userbase, its just a dumpster fire now.
Probably depends on how you define success with these things. The valuation of the company is down a significant amount since it was purchased and recent reports had ad revenue also down a significant amount too. Whether the owner cares about those things is probably up for debate, and evidence would suggest he might be looking for something other than money out of it, like influence, or just a play thing. I’m not sure the owners of Reddit are motivated by the same things, I think they just want to be richer. Time will tell I guess, it’s difficult to tell the difference between incompetence and intentional acts from the outside.
I mean, there’s an argument to be made that reddit was going down this path long before Twitter, what with their hosting and perhaps even promotion of r/t_d
My assumption all along is that the new API pricing thing was in preparation for a backpedal where they implement a paid tier for users that includes third party app access
Very plausible, but they can screw off with that psychological game bullshit. I am tired of everything being about profits these days. I want the early 2000s internet back!
Centralization needs to die, and community collaboration needs to take its place so stuff like that stops happening.
A single entity made a single decision, killing countless devs years of work in an instant.