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Looking for some suggestions, preferably with existing tested compatibility with the Framework laptop hardware so I can do more well rounded research. I’m the most familiar with Ubuntu and CentOS. Picked Ubuntu initially for mid 2000s nostalgia purposes but it’s time to move on.
EDIT: As some people have pointed out, “more privacy oriented” was probably not the best phrase to use here. I am looking to move off of a Linux OS with corporate sponsorship and also looking forward to exploring Linux OSes that are privacy focused.
I have plenty of problems with Ubuntu and Canonical, but I can’t think of anything they’ve done that would make me doubt Ubuntu’s privacy enough to switch distros over. Of course, I daily drive Arch so there may have been something recent I’m just not aware of.
I can’t speak for OP, but the only thing I’m thinking of is the opt-out fiasco of snap packaging and the Amazon data harvasting scandal (many years ago). Ubuntu is really just Debian unstable with Canonical’s security patching and backports (as well as community ppas).
IMO Privacy isn’t the right term to use here, maybe independence? If that’s the case then Debian stable or a non-corporate backed distribution like Void/Solus/Arch/Gentoo may work. I’m just splitting hairs here.
I have used Ubuntu for years on and off, since the days you could have them send you a cd in the mail, with a free copy of Ubuntu.
I recently installed Ubuntu server 22.04, and saw some serious red flags.
Ubuntu pro account - canonical send to be withholding security updates, until you subscribe. This was clickbaited during the command line install with “you are missing out on 97 security updates”
snap, although very slick, and quick to set up, seems very resource intensive, as to my understanding, if I install 2 snaps on my server, they will run 2 instances of Apache, MySQL, etc… Correct me if I’m wrong
Especially the first point, just gave me an idea of which direction canonical is headed in… And I think I for one will start to look elsewhere.
Absolutely happy to be wrong about any of my points
This is also something I noticed when I was looking for a distro for my home media server. Tried Ubuntu Server, saw how they’re trying to push their premium services and nope’d the heck out.
I can understand they want to make money off of their service but I wasn’t a fan of that.
As an expert for horrible wording myself… ahem I just want to point out, that Mark the Canonical dude said at some point that worrying about privacy as Ubuntu user is stupid because “We have root. You trust us with your data already.”. …uhhhhhhhhhh… ok? That was really… really unluckily worded. Even for me. And trust me. I’m an expert for unlucky wording and my life could be SO different if I wasn’t an autistic dumbfuck people are scared of when I actually and genuinly like or even love them… 😭
Nothing specific. I have been slowly moving off of freeware and FOSS sponsored by commercial companies and with all the bs that happened with RHEL and CentOS, moving off trusting Canonical seemed like a good preemptive step. I’m also jist looking forward to trying different distros. I used to keep up actively with the different Linux distributions and am looking to get back into it.
Serious question, what about Ubuntu worries you in terms of privacy?
I have plenty of problems with Ubuntu and Canonical, but I can’t think of anything they’ve done that would make me doubt Ubuntu’s privacy enough to switch distros over. Of course, I daily drive Arch so there may have been something recent I’m just not aware of.
I can’t speak for OP, but the only thing I’m thinking of is the opt-out fiasco of snap packaging and the Amazon data harvasting scandal (many years ago). Ubuntu is really just Debian unstable with Canonical’s security patching and backports (as well as community ppas).
IMO Privacy isn’t the right term to use here, maybe independence? If that’s the case then Debian stable or a non-corporate backed distribution like Void/Solus/Arch/Gentoo may work. I’m just splitting hairs here.
I have used Ubuntu for years on and off, since the days you could have them send you a cd in the mail, with a free copy of Ubuntu. I recently installed Ubuntu server 22.04, and saw some serious red flags.
Especially the first point, just gave me an idea of which direction canonical is headed in… And I think I for one will start to look elsewhere. Absolutely happy to be wrong about any of my points
This is also something I noticed when I was looking for a distro for my home media server. Tried Ubuntu Server, saw how they’re trying to push their premium services and nope’d the heck out.
I can understand they want to make money off of their service but I wasn’t a fan of that.
As an expert for horrible wording myself… ahem I just want to point out, that Mark the Canonical dude said at some point that worrying about privacy as Ubuntu user is stupid because “We have root. You trust us with your data already.”. …uhhhhhhhhhh… ok? That was really… really unluckily worded. Even for me. And trust me. I’m an expert for unlucky wording and my life could be SO different if I wasn’t an autistic dumbfuck people are scared of when I actually and genuinly like or even love them… 😭
It’s even worse. Author of every repository you add has root on your machine as well.
Ex-sister?
Nothing specific. I have been slowly moving off of freeware and FOSS sponsored by commercial companies and with all the bs that happened with RHEL and CentOS, moving off trusting Canonical seemed like a good preemptive step. I’m also jist looking forward to trying different distros. I used to keep up actively with the different Linux distributions and am looking to get back into it.