With FF being one of the last bastions of actual web-freedom on the internet

How cute people who sincerely believe the fairy tales Mozilla tells…

Brave. I was between it and Vivaldi. Finally settled on Brave.

Thanks, I already knew about the “unfuck” fix made by Black. Too late for me, anyway. I have realized that Mozilla doesn’t care about feedbak or users’ opinion (or the users at all…), so I don’t feel like supporting them anymore.

By the way, the fix is fine. But it is a matter of principle: people shouldn’t have to waste their time unfucking Mozilla’s fuckups and users shouldn’t have to waste their time trying to make a browser usable. So, congrats, Moz Corp, you’ve managed to lose an hardcore user.

Yup, the new FF UI is unbearable. And it was the last straw (among other things) that convinced me that it was time to switch to something else (after 20 years).

Faster, better UI, not managed by Mozilla (which I have come to dislike a lot), with a decent mobile client (unlike FF) and so son… By the way, I don’t have to explain why I prefer a browser which is not FF (anymore… I’ve been on FF for about 20 years before leaving it around 2021, fed up with Mozilla and their nonsense development model). Mozillians should realize that people have different preference and make different choices. Tell Mozilla to improve their browser, instead of crying “chromium domination!” all the time. Exclusively Mozilla is to blame for each and every lost FF user.

I’m curious to know where “Chrome” was mentioned in my comment, instead.

Firefox does exactly the same: they have a lot of telemetry, they push their own services (pocket/vpn), they are in bed with Google and evil companies such as Amazon… What’s the difference?

The article you mention is about the search engine, not the browser.

I’ll keep using the browsers that serves me the best, and it’s not FF. Thank you for your concern.

I may agree with him/her, I may not. But that’s unreadable.

Just disable score in your profile settings, man. That’s what I did. Score has no point, really. If someone disagrees with you, they can either ignore you or expose their reasoning. Votes are useless.

• Linux (generally speaking)
• KDE as a whole
• Tusky
• Brave as a browser
• Bitwarden/vaultwarden

Ah, ok. I had misunderstood you at first. Now I get what you meant.

Because it works through Blutooth.

+1 for Arch

Context:

https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2023/7/1.html

That’s likely a mistake that will be corrected before the stable release. /s

Yeah, but people are still using a browser originally made by an homophobic guy. Shame on them! /s

Brave is managed by Brendan Eich who had to leave Mozilla because he is a homophobe.

Eich was a cofounder of Mozilla. Wasn’t him an homophobe back then? Did someone stopped using FF because Mozilla’s cofounder was an homophobe?

And, frankly speaking, I couldn’t care less about him or his believing. I need a good browser. Brave is a good browser (better than Firefox, for me). The day I find something better, I’ll migrate. Full stop.

That and they have been doing some selfserving things with BAT to the point where I wouldn’t trust them even if BAT became something worthwhile or maybe even especially then.

Again, the whole BAT thing is opt-in and it’s not the point here.

No, I don’t agree. The loss was net, I mean 50M users migrated, the same users that before installed FF over the default browser. Something happened there.

Can we blame Mozilla for losing some users? Yeah, maybe a few. But that’s not really the whole picture.

50M (and counting) was 20% of their user base, not “some users”. There’s nothing wrong in admitting that Mozilla erratic development model has alienated at least some of “us” (by the way, I’ve been a FF user for almost 20 years before leaving). And, personally, I’ll make whatever I can to make more users leave FF. Fuck Mozilla, really. They’re just a cash-grab machine right now.