And they’re all marked wrong discouraging lateral thought

Isn’t the opposite true? How do people talk and experience games?

“I played GTA and Michael drove a car off a bridge” Vs “I played GTA and I drove a car off a bridge”

The same doesn’t hold true for other media: “I was watching/reading LoTR and Frodo walked to Mordor” vs “I was watching LoTR and I walked to Mordor”

I prefer spelling it with an extra “Raw”

I’m gonna make the jump to nixOS eventually. I’m just about comfortable with YAML and only in the context of docker-compose. The leap from that to nix seems too great. I’ll start this year though.

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Von Neumann gave me an interesting idea: that you don’t have to be responsible for the world that you’re in. So I have developed a very powerful sense of social irresponsibility as a result of von Neumann’s advice. It’s made me a very happy man ever since. - Richard Feynman (The creep)

Mostly that. I accept the world is shit. I try make my little corner of it better. I try not to support what’s making it worse. I accept I’m not an acetic, worse I’m a hedonist, so I will be making it worse. I accept these things.

I do try make it better, I vote left, I donate, I abstain through boycott to a tolerable level of discomfort.

I could be doing better, I eat meat, I still get things from Amazon, I drive cars/motorcycles as a hobby.

Russia are shit heels. The US are shit heels. Thanks for playing. Harrasing aggressors like Russia is good actually. Thanks for playing.

I’m on my anticorp march right now and currently targeting Google. Search is done with searxng. Next is docs. Then email. Then Maps. Then the behemoth that is Amazon.

You’ll have to forgive me too. I fell into a bit of a poe’s law.

I’m not “AI bad” and “AI bad” has been acting real crazy lately, so it didn’t seem out of character for an “AI bad” person to say ecco the dolphin, by virtue of having no AI, is saving the planet. The game still took power and resources to develop. Not only isn’t it saving the planet, regardless of AI, it’s harming it.

I am however “Corporation bad”, so I was doubly overly sensitive. 1st someone was saying some perceived AI bad silliness. 2nd they were also saying that the corporation harming the planet, was saving the planet. You got your knee jerk though.

Unless you were telling me the plot of ecco, and yeah I suppose, but that’s a bit out of context.

Sorry to preempt your punch line. Joke wasn’t missed, just unappreciated. My bad. I don’t wanna rehash a GenAI debate though, see here for my latest one.

If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it is that it does?

“What do you mean you were led to believe I don’t know what it does” - person who asked what it does.

That assumption?

Probably not. Mind explaining it?

If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it is that it does?

Just to be clear, you just learned that GenAI can be used as a tool to help someone interpret text? Well at least you learned something.

This is what I mean by hyperbole being "AI-bad"s own undoing. You know AI as tool can do things. You try use what it can do as insult, but sadly all you do is errode your own credibility. It is funny though.

I suppose it’s better you’re here. You could have been out there repeating history

“It’s about saving the planet” - KeenFlame.

It isn’t about saving the planet. They never said it was about saving the planet, they don’t think GenAI is destroying the planet (see excerpt) The saving the planet thing came all from you.

It’s about marketing, and it’s working, here you are saying ecco the dolphin is saving the planet. Unless you were telling me the plot of ecco, and yeah I suppose, but that’s a bit out of context. Haven’t bought into the hype? What more hype is there than saving the planet.

What’s the most over hyped game you know? Where were people saying it was saving the planet? Great graphics, incredible gameplay, get to watch an acorn grow into a tree in real time… But saving the planet?!

Listening to marketeers do their thing. Have we not learned our lesson yet. They’ll say whatever it is to sell their game.

Let them make it. Let them release it. Find out if it’s something you want to buy. Buy it. “It’s about saving the planet” why would anyone volunteer to carry water for them?

The developer – whose credits also include Chakan: The Forever Man, Kolibri, Mr. Bones and Three Dirty Dwarves – has previously been quite vocal about his support of tech such as Web3, AI and LLMs (Large Language Models) in video games.

His LinkedIn profile states that one of his “near-term” goals is to “create an AI system to generate ergodic game content.” His current company, PLAYCHEMY, lists “gamification of AI models, Stable Diffusion, LLM, and NeRF” as some of its primary areas of interest.

Save the planet with ECCO, to kill it everywhere else? It’s just marketing (it’s working though). Wait for the reviews instead.

The point of learning long division is so you understand it. Once you understand it, THEN you can use the calculator.

That wasn’t my experience of learning long division. Not a lot of time was spent on understanding the process. A lot of time was spent on repetition, repetition, repetion until it was wrote. The division button on the calculator was faster, does offload my thinking, but it’s easier and gave more accurate results. Using my calculator in long division class would have been considered cheating though, offloading my thinking like that.

But counter to that, I also spent a lot of time in Dreamweaver chasing the dotcom bubble that popped before I entered the job market. Even with the pop we see websites everywhere for everything.

No. The corollary of my luddite argument is that tools are tools. Attacking the tools don’t work to solve systemic problems.

If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it is that it does?

See my first comment for one example of students using it as a tool.

See, the “AI bad” people are funny. In a reply to comment about how people are actually using GenAI as a tool to achieve their goals “If genAI is a tool, can you tell me what exactly it does”? I must say, admitting to not not having a clue what genAI even does is a massive hit to your credibility on this topic. But to answer your question about what it is that generative AI does as a tool: it generates things. Pictures, videos, text, music, it generates things.

It is a shame the airways a late clogged with this nonsense instead of how the wealthy are using tools, any tools, to concentrate wealth.

Look, GenAI is a tool, use it for what you think it’s useful for (even if you think that’s nothing). Let others use it for what they think it’s useful for. But for the love of god, attack the system not the tools.

Someone just told me that Ecco the Dolphin, by virtue of not having AI, is saving the planet. There really should be a comm devoted to the things AntiAI peeps say.

Ok then, that was always allowed.

I didn’t really say AI bad,

Implying GenAi gives wrong answers isn’t saying AI bad?

If you ask AI the same question twice you get 2 answers, different AIs give different responses, different prompts, different people, different geography.

That’s true of people too, and we trust them to do all sorts of things. Ask 20 people what happens after you die, how many answers are you getting? Not just that ask any technical question, ask 4 beekeepers the best way to do a thing and you’ll get 5 answers.

GenAI is a tool, if you try use it to hammer in nails you’re gonna have a bad time. Don’t try use it to hammer in nails.

It turns out wrote answers to wrote questions is something it does fairly well, and it’s still getting better. That’s good, as a society we’ve moved past wrote answers to wrote questions. We should now prepre kids for the society they are going to grow up in, one with GenAI. Critical thinking is something it does fairly poorly, critical thinking is something we do fairly poorly, let’s teach that.

Beyond academics, shitty throwaway art is something it can also do fairly well. Just want an image use GenAi, want a master piece get a human. You already do this, how many of your clothes are handmade? Used a milliner recently? The Luddites taught us a lesson, attacking looms don’t work.

I hope I was the last generation to spend hours on long division with quotes of “you won’t always have access to a calculator”. Those that go into fields where long division may be useful should learn it, the rest of us have calculators.

Nah I grew up with the “you won’t always have a calculator in your pocket” crowd.

If AI gets everything wrong then students using it to offload their thinking will get failing grades. AI getting everything wrong is a self solving problem.

But sure, attack the person, not the argument. I’m sure we’ll have a well reasoned discussion.

The AI bad crowd are really tripping up the capitalism bad crowd. I don’t know what to do about it. I don’t want them stop, they’re hilarious:

The post complaining that GenAI is used for CSAM, tools used for CSAM is bad, and the people that use those tools are bad people. The tool used to complain about AI: the internet!!! The internet, famously absent of CSAM.

The constant hyperbole is funny. Not so much the witch hunts. We can all see the post, students using AI to get through classes means AI can get their questions right. The hyperbole is funny.

Accusing anything and everything of being AI is pretty shitty though, knock it off.

But, they do distract from genuine concerns about how capitalism is using tools, any tools, to concentrate wealth. The tools are tools, it’s the capitalism that’s the problem.

I assume everyone here is wearing cloth made on a loom. The Luddites taught us that attacking the tool (the loom in that case, GenAI in this one) doesn’t work.

It’s good that students are using ai to cheat then. We won’t need to detect it as the answers are wrong.