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    Gustavo Petro’s statement, worth a read:

    Trump, I don’t like traveling to the U.S. much, it’s a bit boring, but I confess there are worthy things. I like to go to the Black neighborhoods of Washington. There, I saw a whole fight in the capital of the U.S. between Blacks and Latinos, with barricades, which seemed to me like nonsense, because they should unite.

    I confess that I like Walt Whitman, Paul Simon, Noam Chomsky, and Miller.

    I confess that Sacco and Vanzetti, who have my blood, in the history of the U.S., are memorable and I follow them. They were murdered for being labor leaders with the electric chair by the fascists who are inside the U.S. just as they are in my country.

    I don’t like your oil, Trump, you are going to end the human species with greed. Maybe one day, along with a drink of whisky—which I accept despite my gastritis—we can talk frankly about this, but it’s difficult because you consider me an inferior race, and I am not, nor is any Colombian.

    So if you are looking for a stubborn person, that’s me, period. You can try to stage a coup with your economic power and arrogance, like you did with Allende. But I will die by my law, I withstood torture, and I resist you. I don’t want slave owners on Colombia’s side, we already had many and we freed ourselves. Who I want to be on Colombia’s side are lovers of freedom. If you can’t join me, I will go elsewhere. Colombia is the heart of the world, and you didn’t understand it. This is the land of the yellow butterflies, the beauty of Remedios, but also of Colonel Aureliano Buendía, one of whom I am, perhaps the last.

    You will kill me, but I will survive in my town, which came before yours, in the Americas. We are peoples of the winds, the mountains, the Caribbean Sea, and freedom.

    You don’t like our freedom, fine. I do not shake hands with white slave owners. I shake the hands of libertarian whites, heirs of Lincoln, and of the Black and white rural boys from the U.S., in front of whose graves I cried and prayed on a battlefield, which I reached after walking through the mountains of Tuscany and after saving myself from COVID.

    They are the US, and before them, I kneel, before no one else.

    Overthrow me president, and the Americas and humanity will respond.

    Colombia, now stop looking to the north, look to the world, our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of Córdoba, the civilization of that time, from the Roman Latins of the Mediterranean, the civilization of that time, who founded the republic, democracy in Athens; our blood carries the resistant Black people who were turned into slaves by you. In Colombia lies the first free territory of the Americas, before Washington, of all the Americas, I take refuge there in their African songs.

    My land is of the goldsmiths that existed in the time of the Egyptian pharaohs, and of the first artists in the world in Chiribiquete.

    You will never dominate us. The warrior who rode our lands, shouting freedom, and who is called Bolívar, opposes you.

    Our peoples are somewhat fearful, somewhat shy, they are naive and kind, lovers, but they will know how to win back the Panama Canal, which you took from us with violence. Two hundred heroes from all over Latin America lie in Bocas del Toro, now Panama, before Colombia, whom you murdered.

    I raise a flag, and as Gaitán said, even if I am alone, it will remain raised with Latin American dignity, which is the dignity of America, which your great-grandfather didn’t know, but mine did, Mr. President, immigrant in the US.

    Your blockade does not scare me because Colombia, in addition to being the country of beauty, is the heart of the world. I know you love beauty as I do, don’t disrespect it, and it will offer you its sweetness.

    COLOMBIA FROM NOW ON FACES THE WHOLE WORLD, WITH OPEN ARMS, WE ARE BUILDERS OF FREEDOM, LIFE, AND HUMANITY.

    I have been informed that you impose a 50% tariff on the fruit of our human labor to enter the US, I will do the same.

    Let our people plant corn, which was discovered in Colombia, and feed the world.

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          I’m reading that Trump actually caved by sending people in non-miltary planes and not chained up which was the just the existing agreement. The pro Trump media is just spinning it as ‘Colombia caved’ to make him look good.

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          Disappointing but understandable since the reports are saying other government officials, including his foreign secretary had to step in. I’m sure the argument that his personal reputation or issues with Trump destroying the Colombian economy was compelling enough

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          Colombia sent their presidential plane to pick up citizens. The core issue here was the use of military airplanes and the treatment being dispensed to those in it, like being handcuffed.

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              I’m not sure where are you exactly aiming with your remark but I’m going to retort based on what I want to perceive from it.

              It’s better to have national airplanes pick up your nationals than to condone allow them to be transported in military aircrafts, handcuffed and who knows what else, like criminals.

              To my knowledge, Colombia refused military airplanes to land/cross their airspace, while at the same time calling out the social upturn being enacted by the new american cabinet. They denounced the attitude of a wannabe dictator, and in a very straightforward way. The rest of the world should be ashamed and banding together by now.

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                It’s better to refuse it entirely rather than capitulate. Which is what they did. And they are now complicit in Trump’s ethnic cleansing.

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                  So you would rather have your kin handled like waste, than secure their safe return to their country?

                  For what? Bragging rights? Bragging over blood? Would those be acceptable losses to further a cause?

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          NYTimes headline says he already caved.

          How fast was that on a scale of zero to Liz Truss?

    • No, his position has always been that the US could send migrants back, but it had to be done humanely. Petro objected to the military transports with underfed and cuffed people in it (same thing Brazil is complaining about). It’s also why he sent the presidential plane to pick up migrants in a humane way instead.

      After that Trump threw his hissy-fit and threatened tarriffs, Colombia reiterated that it only needs people to be taken care of properly and treated like people, and the US caved to those (imo very reasonable) demands.

      Ofc Trump bullshits his way through what should normally be a political humiliation, but here we are.

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        It won’t be done humanely regardless and I have no idea why people think it will. That’s my biggest issue here. Trusting a Nazi to keep his word.

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    Sadly the president of El Salvador wouldn’t do anything but lick Trump’s nutsack. I have been warning everyone in my family about that fascist oligarch crypto bro and everyone just points to lower crime rates, ignoring the suspension of civil liberties and the unacceptable prisons they built. Prisons in which innocent people surely rot among the criminals. And of course now he’s bowing to trump and musk.

    Reminder he was the only one who refused to denounce Putin for invading Ukraine

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    Didn’t Trump say if Kamala was elected we’d have WW3? It’s been less than a week and we’re trying to start some $&@!

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    MBFC:

    Overall, we rate The People’s Dispatch as Far-Left Biased based on promoting Marxist-Leninist perspectives. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to consistent one-sided reporting that lacks context and a complete lack of transparency.

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      I’m curious, do you think there is some bias in this article? What is it?

      In case you doubt their translation, you can find the original source of the statement by Petro here.

      Is there some other source, which you consider less biased, which has published an English-language translation of his response to Trump?

      Or, would you consider any reporting at all of this head of state’s response to be intrinsically biased?

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        I used that link to look up the source. It wasn’t here so I posted it here. I do the same with archive links.

        I didn’t report this and don’t have a problem with it. In general, the fact that they don’t disclose the country they operate out of is problematic since we can’t know if they’re operating from a place where telling the truth is illegal.

        Edit: I should also say that it’s important they’ve never failed a fact check. I don’t really care about them having editorial bias as long as we know what it is.

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          I used that link to look up the source. It wasn’t here so I posted it here. I do the same with archive links.

          Do you post MBFC links on articles from outlets they classify as “unbiased” too, or just the “biased” ones?

          As others have pointed out many times before, the entirely flawed premise behind MBFC is that centrism correlates with credibility and/or factualness.

          I didn’t report this and don’t have a problem with it.

          cool 👍

          In general, the fact that they don’t disclose the country they operate out of is problematic

          Who doesn’t disclose where People Dispatch operates out of? MBFC? Yeah, they don’t, because they’re lazy hacks who’s job it is to impugn the reputation of anyone doing any journalism that isn’t in service of the status quo.

          since we can’t know if they’re operating from a place where telling the truth is illegal.

          A couple minutes of research shows that (although their contributors are all over the world) their legal entity People’s Dispatch Ltd. is registered in New York. So, the way things are headed, I guess actually you might be on to something here soon 😬

          Edit: I should also say that it’s important they’ve never failed a fact check. I don’t really care about them having editorial bias as long as we know what it is.

          The notion that any outlet could have no bias in what they decide is and isn’t worthy of reporting on, especially the people MBFC says are unbiased, is ridiculous. And it’s usually not difficult to see what an outlet’s bias is without relying on a 3rd party using their own bias to classify someone else’s.

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            Do you post MBFC links on articles from outlets they classify as “unbiased” too, or just the “biased” ones?

            I post links if I’m unfamiliar with a source and look them up, regardless of their conclusions. Sometimes I’ll do research on a news source if they don’t have an MBFC entry and share that as well. I assume there are others who are like, “cool story but… who the fuck is this?” I hope it spares them the extra steps.

            If some people don’t like that, I don’t care. I count MBFC downvotes as upvotes. It helps people I’m overjoyed to help and pisses off people that I’m pretty okay with pissing off. I’m not letting a bunch of greasy misinfo ghouls call the shots.

            A couple minutes of research shows that (although their contributors are all over the world) their legal entity People’s Dispatch Ltd. is registered in New York.

            First, registering and operating are two different things. Human beings are not just bound by the laws of the country their corporation is registered in.

            But… so what? If the information we have shows something that’s problematic then new information becomes available that addresses our concerns… that’s fine. That’s how shit’s supposed to work. MBFC is an information source, not the information source.

            As others have pointed out many times before, the entirely flawed premise behind MBFC is that centrism correlates with credibility and/or factualness…

            etc etc etc

            Look, I’ve met my quota on debating weird MBFC conspiracy theorists. The reality is there are a lot of people who don’t know what they’re talking about posting links to webpages they haven’t read. I’m not interested in someone’s poorly thought out take on how they say the Guardian is quadruple Mein Kampf, or whatever. If you have links to peer-reviewed research that support those conclusions, I’d be happy to see them. You don’t, though, because every bit of academic work on MBFC says those people are dead wrong.

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      Wow, a lot of people emotionally disagree with that quote. You can tell because 30+ down voted and you maybe see 1 of them commenting to take a stance.

      Cowards who are afraid of reality deserve no respect.

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        Wow, a lot of people emotionally disagree with that quote. You can tell because 30+ down voted and you maybe see 1 of them commenting to take a stance.

        Cowards who are afraid of reality deserve no respect.

        Maybe… it got all those downvotes because it was a ridiculous thing to post in reply to an article which is simply reporting facts without any bias whatsoever, and posting that comment here in this context appears to be an attempt at discrediting Petro (who is, in fact… a leftist 😱 …watch out) in response to his standing up to to Trump?

        And maybe all those other people downvoting it didn’t bother replying because I had already posted my reply (which adequately pointed out the absurdity of it) right after the comment was posted? 🤔

        principal skinner out of touch meme, top panel "Wow, a lot of people emotionally disagree with that quote." bottom panel "Cowards who are afraid of reality deserve no respect."