Easier to report when Israel is not ethnic cleansing.
Of course, the fucking apartheid lunatics think southern Lebanon is part of their lost kingdom.
*All Lebanon
Israel raiding as usual.
Are they trying to keep it off the records?
We have greater fear of the word ‘antisemetism’ being used inappropriately against us than we are to appropriately speak out or take action to prevent the eradication of semetic people In Palestine and Lebanon. Here in the UK it was unlawful with many arrested for protesting in public or online. We cannot be the hand over evil by staying silent.
We have greater fear of the word ‘antisemetism’ being used inappropriately against us
We don’t, governments are using it as a leverage
Agreed. I think I intended “we” more collectively
And they want to bring the N word back too. Antisemitism should not be punished
Israel is the USA’s military arm in the middle east, it is doing exactly what it was created to do.
Also, a lot of these borders they’re fighting over were arbitrarily created by the USA and UK after WW1&2 (including Israel of course). These borders have nothing to do with the reality on the ground, enemies were mashed together with their mortal enemies and called a country.
This keeps prices of their labor low, for maximum profits. Only the royal families make bank
You got it all wrong. The US doesn’t want to do this, Israel wants to do this and have bought enough US politicians to pull it off. The US created a monster and it’s in control now. The US also needs a base in the middle east and wants access to Israel’s intelligence apparatus. Any time the US tries to flex, Bibi just threatens to make friends with Russia instead, and if the president is a giant pussy like Biden or especially Trump, they fold rather than call the bluff.
The US doesn’t want to do this
They are doing it right now and always had do it. War is a profitable businesses and a tool to get power.
The usa never stopped being an evil empire
I think at this point the US is Isreals military arm.
Yes very much, funding for universities come from jewish/israeli backers, and MIT is a basically a pipeline to the IDF weapons tech.
its also no wonder why they keep targeting IRAN, the original govt before the SHAH was democratic, and they were afraid of nationalization of the oil, so they did a coup and installed the shah which eventually led to the islamic revolution, and they have been trying to get that back since. attacking iran now, likely will ensure the govt remains in place, and the uprising is largely quashed.
More like the US is Israel’s military arm in the rest of the world
You’ve got it backwards, US and UK formed Israel after WW2, Israel is “our” testing ground and intelligence hub for the middle east. “Our” meaning USA, UK, Boeing, Northrop, General Dynamics, et al, and their respective owners.
For the military arm in the Middle East they sure need a lot of US aircraft carriers and military bases to protect them against incoming missiles.
Yes, different “arms” of the military always, without exception, defend other branches of the military, allies, and their bases. They don’t all just sit in their own base and dig in, friend.
That would be stupid
You see, the aircraft carriers are big boats, and they hold these jets. The jets fly around in the air and shoot things with missiles and other arms. The important part for my point is that the carrier is MOBILE, and a place for the jets to land. So, of course we MOBILIZED our MOBILE base.
If an aircraft carrier is used, it is silly to conclude that the country that it is defending at the moment is more than a “military arm”. It’s used everywhere. Get it? That’s what it does.
I am not an expert, educate me if I am wrong.
Who fought the Iraq war, was that Israel?
The constant indiscriminate killing is insane.
What is even crazier is coming to realize with modern technology it isn’t indiscriminate and they may very well know with good accuracy who is dying before they do.
The implications of this type of warfare is beyond chilling.
What’s even cracrazier is knowing that with modernerer technology they have the same ethical assumptions as previously but with more targets and less precision!
"Whaaaaat?? An imperialist ethnostate us ethnicaly cleasing another country??? Imposiblee! /s
Israel commiting genocide/ethnic cleansing while the media utterly ignores it?
Thats utterly preposterous! How could such a thing happen again!? /s
Its OK God wills it or some bullshit like that.
Inshallah
Media ignores it?
What fucking rock u under?
It’s daily news, molasses.
Edit: goddammit username checks out… U got me.
The media cover the war but they do not say israel is doing ethnic cleansing
Just wait until you find out who owns the media
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Calling out Israel’s actions as a country have been declared “anti-Semitic”, and thus a hate-crime.
Ironic since anti semitisms definition includes comparing all semites with jews or a jews state.
They’re covering it here in Europe it’s on the news regularly. The problem is that nobody cares in Europe to do anything.
To clarify, they cover the facts of the matter in a very abstract, passive way - they’ll say that Lebanon is being struck by Israeli missiles and that IDF forces are telling people to leave their homes, but no one will even come close to suggesting that what’s happening is ethnic cleansing.
Which is, in all honesty, the correct way to cover news reports.
When an israeli official ssy we going to replicate what happened in Gaza. It should be reported because it is a huge important detail
Just checked belgian national news and there’s nothing
The problem is that nobody cares in Europe to do anything.
Many do care but can’t do much about it. Decades of government and capitalism propaganda have empowered authorities beyond control and have make it hard for people to do something outside their work.
Wyatt should we do? Go to war with America essentially?
Sanction Israel for genocide for a start. Cut off diplomatic economic educational and financial ties with them. Like the world did with South Africa.
But Europe doesn’t give a fuck about genocide unless it’s on their soil.
And get pressured and possibly worse by America?
Then let’s sanction america. Why are you such a genocide apologist simp?
Why are you (whatever your country is) supporting America? Why is half the world using the US Dollar for international trade? How is your country enabling the USA?
Do you think the USA are Nazis? Do you think if you sit at the table with Nazis, you’re a Nazi? Is your country sitting at the table?
Ofc they’re nazis. Our politicians were most probably filmed by the cia on jeffrey island fucking kids. They also murdered leftist politicians.
My country doesn’t exist anyway we’re basically occupied by the germans.
The US $ is the world currency for oil. Sanctioning America = sanctioning yourself.
Sounds like a good reason to wean ourselves off of oil then, doesn’t it?
If
the apocalypseclimate change won’t change people’s minds perhaps being controlled by a warmongering foreign state will.Oh i guess the pedophilia and genocide is fine then. My right to vroemvroem my fatass to my shitty office job is obviously more important than those lowly considerations
Iran has promised to let ships through from countries that sanction the US, so it would be a good way to get oil, actually. I’m sure the EU can give Venezuela air defense against US invasion in exchange for a good deal on their oil too.
Spain and switzerland show that you can refuse the usa orders and restrict stuffs from the usa
Oh no, not pressured! I guess you’ll just have to keep supporting genocide
Fair. But if any bloc in the world can do it it’s the European Union. But their members don’t give a shit otherwise they would have by now.
The fact is no one in Europe cares about it. Years, decades, of weasel words and inaction. Years of illegal occupation and ifnoryof UN mandates. Years of on going genocide. But the people dying aren’t white Europeans… oh well too bad for them I suppose?
Yeah, and Pakistan and Indonesia have done what exactly? The Saudis have sanctioned and oil embargoed the US? Egypt has forced aid through the Gaza border? Turkey has seized American military bases? Right? Right? No.
Everyone is complicit. More or less every nation would rather have peace and comfortable political discussions, rather than stand up against the world hegemon. Some tried, Libya, Iraq, Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran. Find me one country that has opposed the US in this? And before you say Spain, let me note that they haven’t even kicked out their ambassador. What do you want from Europe that no other country is willing to do?
The difference is that European countries regularly proselytise how open and kind they are and how they respect the rule of law and international human rights. Pakistan / Saudi Arabia doesn’t 😄.
Everyone is complicit.
Yes. They are. But Europe should take a lead in this if I am honest. Lead by example that if you genocide people you can’t do business here.
But that’s not going to happen.
I agree 100%, and as a European I am disgusted by the political elites here and have been since the Iraq War when I marched in protest against their obvious violations of international law. But the so called democracies of Europe are in many ways plutocracies beholden to the plutocracy of the US. I’ve voted, protested, written in the papers and been part of organizations, yet my opinions are by the majority considered radical and unrealistic. But at least in Europe, people like me are not put behind bars.
I think sanctions have been tried a few times. People care. It’s just very hard to do anything meaningful aslong as America supports them 100%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sanctions_involving_Israel
The sanctions should be on the state who is building colonies and not simply some random settlers and settler orgs
Stop actively supporting Israel, mostly
There are European nations that send a lot of money to Israel every year. Maybe they can stop doing that?
Yeah. What are you scared of? Iran is kicking our ass.
They signed the genocide convention. It is a legal obligation
America defines what’s legal or not sadly
False It is the UN.
Wyatt should we do? Go to war with America essentially?
Believe it or not, all people would have to do to stop the government is as simple as stop watching netflix or buying from amazon: the market would panic and so would the government.
Yes. That is the solution.
Yes. Nuke new york
“Aren’t allowed”
I think Israel senses that the writing is on the wall. For decades they’ve preferred to gradually expand their borders, slowly antagonizing their neighbors and then using the resulting retaliations to justify land theft.
But this shtick is wearing thin. Slowly the tide is turning against Israel, even in the US. And Trump is likely to be the high water mark for US support of Israel. Trump’s given them a blank check, so they’re treating this as their last chance to grab as much land as possible while facing minimal international resistance. This is the fire sale of the US/Israel alliance.
Climate change will not be kind to the region. Israel knows that it is in deep shit and is acting out. Ironically, its military aggression is only hastening this.
Slowly the tide is turning against Israel, even in the US.
Is it? Public sentiment might be turning against them, but actual political support for them is only increasing, and not just from Trump; even ostensibly “left wing” governments like UK or Australia are still pulling out all the stops to ensure Israel gets what it wants and domestic criticism is crushed
USA can’t turn against Israel, it IS Israel, Israel is our baby. We made it with the UK, Israel is used for military and intel, more than anywhere else in the world. A forever hot spot and training ground
We’re going to have a world war against the USA and Israel. It might not be today, tomorrow or even in a few years… but I feel like it’s inevitable. They are rogue terrorist states and are responsible some of the most heinous war crimes in recorded history. They need to be stopped.
No way Europe meaningfully stands up to Uncle Sam, and heinous Israeli-American war crimes are nothing new. Trump still hasn’t actually outdone the Iraq war, for example.
Europe and many.in the world are waiting that he gets voted out on 2028 in the meantime they are just reacting
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They won’t because Europe is always on the loosing side and getting in any war is bad, against the us, let’s be honest, it would be a disaster. Europe have to protect their people too.
The war that will change the world will be US x China. China is a military superpower and it is surpassing the US, or at least matching them, little by little.
That’s the scary part for me. they will end the worldThey won’t because Europe is always on the loosing side and getting in any war is bad, against the us, let’s be honest, it would be a disaster.
I meant diplomatically and economically, not necessarily militarily. There are cards that can be played without getting into a hot (or even cold) war with the US; (most) European countries just don’t use them because A: Their elites profit from US war crimes too, and B: Most of them are happy being US vassal states.
Oh nooo yellow people
China’s real power comes from economics rather than military might. So long as the US keeps burning itself out fighting conflicts all over the world while China builds up peacefully, China will continue to grow in power and influence. They have no reason to force a conflict when they can simply win without fighting.
Imo the danger is entirely on the US side. At a certain point, we need to come to terms with our declining status and to try to make the best of it. Reduce our commitments, stop throwing our weight around, fix our domestic problems, and learn to compromise. We need to understand why China’s approach has been working and learn from it.
But that completely goes against how Americans think and act, and if we can’t do that, then there’s really one other alternative. It will become clear that the only arena where we can compete with China is militarily. There’s a significant possibility therefore that the US will start WWIII simply because of being too egotistical to accept second place.
The ruling class is (hopefully) sane and secure enough to not actually want to trigger nuclear armegeddon, but they are happy to play with fire. Fear-mongering and saber-rattling with China helps them justify funnelling money to the military-industrial complex which is profitable to them (and if it triggers a wave of anti-Asian hate crimes, they don’t care). But this carries the risk that an actual “true believer” is going to end up getting into a position of power and do the unthinkable. As long as the status quo continues and the fire keeps getting stoked, this becomes increasingly inevitable.
That is true, china is literally taking over the world peacefully and everyone is looking to the u.s.a having temper tantrums. I shared this before, the trilions of state money china is investing is some parts of the word is insane. They are not going to alow this to go to waste…and that’s my fear
Maybe I’m ignorant but if every English speaking nation stood together and told the US that they were being evil and doing wrong, and that they’d no longer join in with their invasions, the US would probably stand down.
Too bad they’re all pussies (Australia included)
This might have been the case under sane-but-horrible leaders like George W. Bush, Mike Pence, and the last Democrats, but I think this outcome is improbable as 1) that international united refusal didn’t happen when George W. Bush waged war over lies in the Middle East; 2) This administration is composed of hyped-up christo-fascists and their sycophants, and is goaded by oligarchs who want the destruction of the USA so they can buy up what remains.
It’s fucking wild that W is a beacon of sanity now. You aint wrong but its still fucking wild
I can just hope that the orange despot is the bottom and if we go even lower we’ll be back to the Stone Age level civilization if we’re lucky.
haha I paused a bit as I wrote that, too; but yeah. W Bush was stupid, a bad public speaker, and a warmonger… but he knew when to listen to his advisors.
No us is out of control under trump, no reason nor logic will influence the US unfortunately
I don’t know what people are talking about here, but Trump is an evil asshole and this will never work.
I don’t think so. They can’t manufacture their weapons if the rest of the world stops exporting parts and material inputs to them. They are very far from self-reliant.
That goes both ways, the US is the world’s arms dealer for a reason; not just to “make money”, but to insure that your military is dependent on the USA.
It’s happening now, western countries have just mostly decided to fall in line and support them
This is a gross generalization. It’s like aliens looking down on earth and saying “we really have to do something about these humans.”
Like, sure. We, as a species, might have earned that… But, is it all humans?
The right shift in power across nations could solve this. It starts with people acknowledging that the real issue is rogue governments. Right now in the United States, our government is rogue.
Random people born in Russia don’t want to kill Ukrainians any more than every American wants to kill random people in the Middle East. Our humanity is important, and where you’re born and live doesn’t dictate your loyalty to empowered dictators.
The movement that needs to happen is one where the people rise up in all nations, and unite. It starts with language. America doesn’t need to be destroyed any more than Russia, but their governments require radical changes.
i feel like the execution of the ayatollah was our century’s franz ferdinand. as in it’s already begun and will only get worse.
Just like the rogue terrorist state Russia needs to be stopped in their attempted annexations and political psyops.
Or China needs to be stopped in their aggressions against Taiwan and ethnic cleansing of Uyghurs and other “undesirable” people.
I feel like there is no winning scenario left in this.
Who are “we” anyway?
What about Putin guys??? Russia is bad guys!! Guys??? What are you doing over there guys???
Are you still going on about this? How often do you want to reply to me?
Or are you one of those Russian bots just spouting the same stuff over and over?
Yes i’m a Russian bot. I’m currently in siberian gulag and this is my job. Putin sent me here after i farted too loud
All countries who is doing or supporting grave crimes agsinst humanity should be help acvoutsble including your trashy country
Always whatabouting huh?
None of those is led by a documented pedophile
Oh wow, yeah if they’re at least undocumented it’s all good.
Just because Trump is basically the worst possible example of a human being there can be, I’m not gonna believe for a second that any other ruling politicians or oligarchs are saints. Just that those others have better control over the media, which Trump wants to achieve as well.
China didn’t bomb any school lately. Sounds like you’re looking for excuses for what your side is doing.
Which makes sense given feddit overt support for zionism
And what apparent side would that be, if I may ask?
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years, to a genocidal entity like “Israel” that is being constantly aided by the US empire and defended by the western propaganda machine.
And regarding Xinjiang, you may need to look at the facts before throwing terms like “ethnic cleansing.”
EDIT: I have to add how despicable and of ill nature it is to shift the conversation away from the issue at hand, i.e. the war crimes of the imperialist machine, and towards discursive topics.
China is now arguably the fifth largest supplier of arms supplying weapons and ammo to conflict regions. China is well known for its forced cultural assimilation and they have never stopped. Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
I see you cherry picked the years because between the cultural revolution and the subsequent famine China lost well over 50 millions citizens.
We know the facts, the labor camps, the dramatic drop in birth rates, the altering of mosques to look more Chinese. Forced cultural assimilation is a genocidal act when the US did it to the Native Americans. China is no different.
Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year while also being an obvious oligarchy. Why did all these innocents need to die just for China to become fascist themselves?
If the US disappeared tomorrow Chiva would happily fill its spot as a the number one human rights abuser with their garbage partners Russia and North Korea.
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years
I see you cherry picked the years
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Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year
Because doing so has allowed them to lift 700 million people out of extreme poverty. The revolution that feeds the children gets my support.
Are you a Maoist? Do you think China should’ve stayed the course instead of doing reforms? Then they wouldn’t have billionaires. Or are you just chauvanistically criticizing them regardless of what they do or don’t do?
Let’s ignore recent history because if you go back you see the enormous loss of life due to shitty policies backed up by propaganda and lies. Believable.
If you have come to terms that China’s ruling party engaged in a cultural revolution costing millions of lives to just become what they literally fought against that is good for you. It is one of the greatest purges of citizens conducted in modern times for nothing.
I am not afraid to point out how China became a fascist nation and is ruled by a oligarchy that regularly purges it ranks. That their military industrial complex continues to grow bringing death and destruction around the world.
If you recognize that they engage in imperialism and genocide that is good. Like any modern garbage government it is about power and control not what is the best policies for the people. We can see wealth inequality dramatically increasing leading to a two-tired society much like all fascist capitalist countries.
Their partnership with the US, which is the most destructive country in history, intertwined their economies and helped increase the power and control of the ruling class in the US and produce the wealth used to subjugate the world under fascist rule.
Maybe some day the Chinese people will get the government they deserve, for now they are stuck with a government ran by a corrupt oligarchy.
So much projection. Literally you just see a bad thing about the US and accuse China of it based on nothing
Let’s ignore recent history because if you go back you see the enormous loss of life due to shitty policies backed up by propaganda and lies.
Is there a statute of limitations? If a country is at peace for a hundred years, but it was at war before that, is it “cherry picking” to point that out? What about a thousand years? Absolutely ridiculous, just full on comical.
If you have come to terms that China’s ruling party engaged in a cultural revolution costing millions of lives to just become what they literally fought against that is good for you
Do you actually know anything about the cultural revolution? Much of the violence and chaos was caused by independent, student-led militias. Naturally, there were calls for the central government to provide a greater degree of stability afterward.
Also, completely failed to answer my question. Were the reforms an improvement or do you prefer how things were under Mao? It has to be one or the other, or else you’re speaking in bad faith (which you obviously are).
If you recognize that they engage in imperialism and genocide that is good.
I don’t believe claims without evidence, no.
What part of the US is the most destructive country on the planet do you not get you fascist apologist.
Ohh suddenly we can hold the US for all of its atrocities but China gets a magic reset because of yet another authoritarian regime change. Get the fuck out of here with more apologist garbage.
Pretending evidence doesn’t exist when the Chinese government openly admits to what they do including the transfers of arms is bullshit.
You don’t consider a slow burn genocide like the US continues to perpetrate against the Native Americans as something China does with its Muslim population, I get it. This denialism of imperial actions is a classic sign of someone who does not care about human rights.
You also have not explained why fascist China is okay but US fascism is bad. I guess just as long as your teams fascism taste better. I can’t even with people who don’t care about anything but their camp.
Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
Opening in the sense that there’s been over a decade of accusations and still no actual evidence of even a single death, or indeed any physical evidence at all, with the excuse that it’s all going on in secret. So, the opposite of open.
Israel couldn’t hide genocide in Gaza despite having it completely locked down and the tacit support of the media, but apparently China is doing it on an even bigger scale in a place people can freely travel to.
You keep saying that there is no evidence does not make it true. Birth rates plummeted by as much as 60% with China providing IUDs and sterilization.
I am absolutely not saying that what China has done is anything close to Israel and the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians. Instead it is very similar to the genocide the US did with Puerto Rico.
I said no physical evidence. Not half decade old number fudging from right wing military industrial think tanks like the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.
I am sure if you ignore numerous reports, video and photographic evidence, countless interviews, and China’s own admissions then there is no evidence.
At this point I am just going to chalk it up to willful ignorance and your campism as I am very familiar with your denialism and propaganda at this point.
Edit: I did look up information again and it appears China has made some groundwork in reducing internment because their genocide was exposed.
Good for them I guess
Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year while also being an obvious oligarchy. Why did all these innocents need to die just for China to become fascist themselves?
Capitalism and socialism are not some clear cut systems or categories that can be merely “adopted.” They are modes of production that are dictated by the material and social relations of production in a given space at a given time. For instance, the transition from feudalism to capitalism did not occur neither swiftly, nor neatly nor universally; rather, capitalist bubbles existed at the epitome of feudal rule and did not expand until the favourable material circumstances emerged — abrupt demographic changes in the 14th century, colonialist ventures by private companies in American continent, and so forth. And even after capitalism became the dominant mode of production, feudalist relations of production still existed at the peripheries.
A similar perspective should be adopted in China. The existence of markets is not a core aspsct of capitalism; and regarding billionaires, the PRC prosecutes even more of them, in addition to the tens of thousands of millionaires who emigrate every year.
This is exactly what socialism looks like, a transitional stage that will bring forth a post-capitalist society once the international contradictions (Chinese millionaires) as well as external (US imperialist encroachment) are extinguished. Some policies may succeed, while others may fail and become lessons for future policymaking. But to call this anything close to fascism is treason to the working classes of the Global South.
Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
Just ask yourself a simple yet important question: what does the PRC stand to gain from indiscriminately persecuting its own citizens and making them suffer aimlessly?
You can travel right now to Xinjiang and visit all of its towns and cities freely with total access and ease (as many tourists do every year), and you would see people openly speaking Uyghur, rituals and local events practiced publicly, and mosques operating normally. If you’re adamant on believing what some white journalist from NYT or WSJ has to say instead of the locals and residents as well as tourists and independent, on-ground reporters, then this conversation should stop right here.
You don’t get more billionaires by practicing socialism. You would have to be truly naive to believe China is practicing socialism. Also, their greatest accomplishment of raising so many people out of poverty was because of capitalism not socialism.
Why does China engage in forced cultural assimilation? Because it always has throughout history. They even have a name for it, sinicization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization
China has always and will always be imperialist which is why when campists call out the US for Imperialism it is so unbelievably hollow.
You can also travel to reservations in the US to see Native Americans dancing and singing. Clearly this proves the US has done nothing wrong. To be frank, your position is not supported by facts and it is naive to say the least.
The US also prosecutes their wealthy like Martin Shkreli. Does this suddenly absolve their capitalism. I know you are not joking, but it is hard to take you seriously when you hand wave the fact that China has now created more billionaires than the US for the second year in a row.
I judge a nations level of fascism by not only their wealthy inequality but a growing wealth gap. A truly socialist country would not have this issue. China continues to increase its wealth gap dramatically.
https://sccei.fsi.stanford.edu/china-briefs/rise-wealth-private-property-and-income-inequality-china
If you are trying to convince me you are a campist you have done an excellent job.
Again, you’re ignoring the fact that socialism is not a defined set of policies that gets to be uniformly applied in a vaccum. The trajectory even has historically varied from one socialist state to another. To attribute the accomplishments of the PRC to “capitalism” is inaccurate. What there is in China is a market economy that is predominated by public ownership and state-owned enterprises, which is nowhere close to capitalism.
You condemn the consequences of the early Maoist policies, and then equally condemn Dengist reforms. What’s the point of critiquing for the sake of critiquing, whem there is no constructive effort on your part to properly assess and understand the material and historical circumstances that have led to China’s development into what it is now, only being guided by emotions and a confident lack of theory. One recent book on the matter that I recommend is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics by Roland Boer.
China has always and will always be imperialist
This is ahistorical and untheoretical thinking on your part. Imperialism is an advanced form of capitalism. An imperialist state is one that has saturated its domestic markets and as a consequence seeks to expand its markets and the reproduction of private capital overseas, by all means possible and most notably by force. China simply does not possess the features of imperialism. Prolewiki has a very informative article that explains the concept.
Until now, you’ve only indiscriminately sprinkled terms like imperialism and capitalism and fascism without much thought in the process, and so we’ve reached an impasse.
As to the Xinjiang matter, your views reflect those of the western propaganda machine. I’ve already mentioned above a FAQ compiled by Dessalines (yes, Lemmy’s lead dev) which contains many articles and documents that may at the very least give a different perspective on this matter.
Seeing as you have be unable to effectively refute anything I have said I think we are done here. Cheers!
Invading Tibet was an act of war.
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years
Invading Tibet was an act of war.
When exactly do you think that happened?
Still going on, pops!
Lol what? So wars never end by that logic. The US is still engaged in the American Civil War.
The concept of an independent Tibet never existed before the British imperialists in India plotted to expand their sphere of influence into China. See for instance the Lhasa Convention.
Furthermore:
Britain put before the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs a five-point demand, indicating the denial of China’s sovereignty over Tibet. When the Chinese government rejected the British demand, the British blocked all the roads leading from the British Raj in India to Tibet.
In 1913 the British government coerced local Tibetan authorities into declaring independence and proposed that:
“Britain be the weaponry supplier after total independence of Tibet;” “Tibet accept British envoys’ supervision of Tibetan financial and military affairs in return for Britain’s support of Tibetan independence;” “Britain be responsible for resisting the army of the Republic of China when it reaches Tibet;” “Tibet adopt an open policy and allow freedom of movement of the British.”
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The zionist instance lmao. Be careful mate the polizei might come to your house if you don’t support the genocide enough, you dirty antisemite
Oof you drank the db0 kool-aid. My condolences.
Btw. Israel is comitting a genocide in Gaza. Now by your logic, surely my comment must be deleted, right? But if you are honest, you don’t give a shit about people in Gaza.
Now try saying “genocidal states should be dismantled”.
Feddit will ban him for saying genocide is bad, so shhhh, just fund more weapons!
Now try saying “from the river to the sea”
Triple reply? Someone’s triggered…
My wife’s arab you fucking piece of shit
Why would you attack me by implying I have alterior motives when I simply replied to the top comment? It doesn’t mention an “imperialist machine”, it states that there will be a world war against the US & Israel.
I simply stated that I can see no “good” allied forces against the “bad” axis in this conflict as in WW2 (let’s just say that, for all its own problems, the lines were more clearly defined back then). Everyone’s kinda the baddies now.
Regarding your sources: Wow, someone has certainly been busy. I simply haven’t had the time to read it all, but if you consider a paid journalist on a curated trip to the region and a professionally produced video series with apparent residents as credible sources, I am not convinced. It’s no secret that Bejing has a heavy grip on the media and censors basically all critical outlets. I do not expect any official account of anything bad ever happening there.
Doesnt work that way. Evil is not a country. You can attack it and try to destroy it, and if you succeed, another country will take its place.
But yeah, its worth doing anyway since it gives temporary relief. Otherwise the logic would be to not try to stop oppressive countries, and that obviously doesnt work either.
What this place needs is a big spiritual upgrade of humans, so they would stop becoming evil just for money and power.
All european governments are supporting and helping israel government don’t make it an USA thing.
This is such a comically delusional and out of touch comment that can only be found in the bowels of Lemmy
Is your country doing business with the rogue terrorist states? is your country buying arms from the USA, or using the US Dollar to trade?
If you’re going to stop the USA, you better ramp up arms production yourselves.
The US has armed a lot of the world, and that world is dependent on the USA for specialists, training, parts, ammunition, F-35s, and so on, an endless list.
They did that for a reason, not just to make money, but to make DEPENDENCE. The first taste is free.
Just keep this in mind during the next election when you see the US suspects pushing “both sides” and “corporate dem” narratives. Don’t be a sucker.
Don’t be a sucker, vote for our private organization’s billionaire-curated mook!
The Ds won’t save you, it’s not 1938 any more. Biden was a 50-year hack and an embarrassment. Trump is a travesty and an embodiment of what you get when corporations are people and cash is free speech.
You won’t be provided with a Messiah to vote for, I’m afraid, not by the Democrats anyway
I voted Democrat, but I know it’s a joke, like voting for the next American Idol. I dunno how you could possibly take it seriously
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Lebanon’s government and military were actually helping Israel combat Hezbollah. It was the only path towards stability.
You see the thanks this got them…
Yeah, it’s a perfect example of why you should never comply with fascists. The only path towards stability is the complete dissolution of Israel and the denazification of Zionists.
How would you accomplish that? Is your violence any better than theirs?
Idk dude is self-defence better than murder?
Do you think foreign war is self defense?
They all claim to do self defense.
yeah but only some are actually doing self defense
What started it, what year? Was it the Jews in the holy land thousands of years ago? Or after, when the Pharoah was forced to let them go (supposedly)? Did it start with the formation of Israel by the US/UK after WW2? The Arab-Israeli war in the 1950s? October 7?
Well you’re no longer discussing this in good faith once you start obfuscating a current genocide with shit that happened a hundred years ago, much less mythical shit that happened thousands of years ago.
ask billy joel
Yes.
lol! literally no way to tell two contradictory claims apart. Is one claim more false than the other? Who can say? It’s just one of those unknowable mysteries of the universe that our dumbasses just can’t figure out.
“Is the violence of the allies any better than the violence of the Nazis!”
Yes
That’s very fascist of you :)
Lol. Is that really the best you could come up with?
What?
🙄
Yes.
That’s very fascist of you :)
It’s very fascist of you to project that violence inarguably makes you a fascist. Violence kills nazis, too. Slave rebellions were violence. Every step of anything laughably comparable to American civil rights was won with violence. Your right to vote was achieved through violence. Fascists are defeated, explicitly, throughout all of history, with violence. At this point, who is benefiting from pacifism?
Then why are they in charge of your government?
A lack of violence against them. They’re the ones benefiting from pacifism.
They are. Just depends on where you live
