It must surely be imminent. He’s not in the best health if the reports about him eating mcdonalds all the time are true. He’s 79 which isn’t that old but I dont see many fat, stressed 90 year olds on a mcdonalds diet.
Say he had a heart attack next week… then what? Presumably Vance would take over as actual president, but I can’t imagine anyone being as bad as him. Would the maga movement continue with a different cult leader? Do you think things would meaningfully change?
The biggest party in history, and he can’t go
One piece of shit dies, another piece of shit comes and takes their place.
He’ll go to hell.
Parties. Celebration. But things won’t really improve in the short term. Medium term, maybe the cult fractures, but fascism is much bigger than this one fuckhead.
Still, parties.
Fascism usually doesn’t recover from a leader loss for years.
Historical examples: Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet.
We get couch fucker who is a Peter “I can see the Antichrist “ Theil bitch boy.
Most likely a mad struggle for power among those in his circle alongside a struggle to be seen as the heir. Vance has an advantage here, but you can see other players making their moves including Greene. Had Kirk been alive he honestly might’ve been my dark horse bet. But if nobody wins a sufficient coalition then everyone loses. Some of the ideas will remain, but mostly the energized masses return to how they were before him or they’ll split into their feuding factions where the San Francisco technofascists and the Midwesterners who hate change and the southerners who just hate everyone different from them are all back at each other’s throats and all are disgusted with Nick Fuentes
There is a long list of politicians who have tried to do the Trump thing ever since the stupid escalator. Florida Governor DeSantis made a tiny little bit of headway that ultimately collapsed around him, Marge Greene has been setting herself up as the post-Maga maga leader, and Ted Cruz of Texas has been trying for the longest time to position himself as heir apparent of the current GOP, but there hasn’t been anyone who has been able to capture the same spectrum of blind devotion to grudging acceptance that Donald Trump has somehow managed to unite into the Maga movement.
JD Vance certainly isn’t it, and while he’ll certainly get the Oval Office when Trump dies before completing his term, I think his presidency will be fairly unremarkable and rather short, and afterwards he’ll move into private equity consulting or some such and never be seen in politics again.
But without Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk, and with a ton of the other influencers either jumping ship or losing face, I don’t think we’ll see the same focus on a single candidate again. Since 2016, we’ve had a historical alignment of domestic influence and foreign interference that focused on Trump specifically, and he has used that (as he always does) to build the Trump brand and only the Trump brand. Nobody else can use it; not even Don Jr., who has tried dipping his toes in and mostly been ignored.
So I think the answer is, the maga cult sputters and dies. Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles, but it won’t elect another president. The best case scenario, in my mind, would be maga breaking away from the GOP and trying to field candidates for a few years that become spoilers.
Either way, the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can’t possibly predict whether that’ll work. My gut says yes, but maybe that’s just me being cynical).
Maybe it sticks around long enough to poison the waters for a couple more election cycles
This is kind of my best case scenario for the cult. Stick around and try their own thing, which results in siphoning votes from the Republican party.
the Republicans will eventually put the mask back on and try to pretend like nothing ever happened (though I can’t possibly predict whether that’ll work)
Oh it’ll work. After Bush Jr. Republicans pulled a “Who? Oh I didn’t know him that well”. Then they got a fascist elected. Their base has hamster brains. This whole ordeal should have buried the Republican party in a deep unmarked grave. But it won’t.
OMG wouldn’t that be an interesting outcome. MAGA splits from GOP, taking voters. Suddenly there is room for an actual left side party instead of whatever Dem is anymore. Would be funny if the death of Trump actually pushed us into having more political parties and some actual representation for the people.
In my opinion, the best case scenario is that that happens, the GOP dies (it happened with the Whigs!) and a new, more progressive party (maybe DemSoc) becomes relevant to the left of the Democrats. The Dems become the new Conservatives (since they basically are anyway) and the left wing becomes the moderate left. The overperformance of Abughazeleh (even though she didn’t win) and the shocking effectiveness of Mamdani now that he’s in office make this slightly less impossible than it would’ve seemed even a year ago.
At this point, it should be clear to everyone that Trump is a symptom, he is not the disease.
Agreed, but that doesn’t mean I won’t celebrate it.
But then the death squads will come after you if you do.
the cope is strong, would be a lot funnier seeing everyone finally being forced to come to terms with reality if i wasnt stuck in the US when it goes down
That’s true, but if you pop this particular pustule it’s not clear how long it would take for another to emerge - perhaps hears or decades. In which time there’s a chance you could at least partially address the underlying health issues.
It’s a bit of both. He is uniquely good at allowing people to feel like their narcissism is righteous. He’s the best at it since Hitler. JD’s no neo-hitler.
I’ll go into the nearest pub and buy everyone a round.
Things are likely to stay pretty shitty as Trump is a symptom rather than an underlying cause, but we’ve had precious little to celebrate.
Everyone will buy everyone a round, everyone shit faced and all broke even lol
Socialism at it’s finest.
Politicians will use his death for X agenda. vance is primed for it and Erika Kirk is a good case study.
Trump is the disposable useful idiot to be the fall guy if the fascist coup fails. Everyone will pretend to sober up with their “it wasn’t us, it was him and we tried to fight it from the inside, but he was just too powerful.” story. These lines are well rehearsed.
The fascist party is still fully present and accounted for, and are learning to exercise their newfound powers with alarming speed. Trump dying fixes nothing. They lose a figurehead, and the idiot fallguy. Their plans don’t stop. If anything they accelerate and intensify because their big escape clause just disapeared and the cost of failure goes up.
Trump dying fixes nothing.
Well, it could potentially fracture their party between different figures vying to be the next Trump. That’s the only thing it could fix.
The fascists will still be there, you’re absolutely right. However, do not undercut the cult of personality. People not under the spell, can’t/won’t see it but all of this is built off his “charisma”. Their momentum will absolutely falter when he’s no longer around.
Once it happens, we cannot allow for elected members to talk about “coming together” and “moving forward”. These ghouls must be held accountable.
The individual you’re replying to may be sincere, but a shill trying to demoralize us would say the exact same thing. If a scary message doesn’t end in a call to action, it’s not helpful.
Lol. I answered op’s question. Here’s your CTA. Go fix your shit or die trying.
I personally know more than a couple trumpers who are now fully cultists and will eat whatever right wing media feeds them. As long as there are consistent right wing propagandists, there will be the cult of maga. They will continue on supporting fascism and hurting others.
Agreed, perhaps I’m just not as hopeful in the damage the cult suffers in this circumstance. It would have been damaging in an election. Things are moving fast now and still accelerating. There might not be another election, then losing Dear Leader doesn’t mean much. Fascists use fear and violence to control opposing groups in populations, not democratic consent to legitimize themselves.
The plans won’t stop, but the cult of personality definitely will
Vance (and Peter Theil by proxy) become president.
It’d probably be best if Pete Thiel just died also. That would be pretty cool.
Isn’t he allegedly drinking the blood of virgin boys or something to try to defeat death?
Just make it “all billionaires”, just to be sure.
we’ll have a theilocracy
MAGA is a classic Cult of Personality, and Trump’s death will be the end. Like all Dictators, he won’t name a successor because he doesn’t want to give any power to anyone else, so he’ll let Rubio and Vance fight it out for his own entertainment.
Meanwhile there are a bunch of MAGA losers entertaining the fantasy of taking over MAGA when Trump dies. Guys like Don Jr. You don’t think he feels like he’s ENTITLED to succeed his father to the throne? Or Hegseth? Or Lindsey Graham? Or DeSantis? Or Abbot? Or Tucker Carlson?
When Trump assumes room temperature, the knives are going to come out, and the backstabbing will begin. It will be glorious.
Dems should know this is coming upon Trump’s inevitable death, and understand that it will be a unique golden moment for them. They better be ready to take full advantage of that opportunity with a plan in place to deploy when it happens.
I disagree with your “he won’t name a successor”. He will name 6, one of whom will be his yet to be announced IVF child with Laura Loomer. They will fight and claw for dominance and 65 years later they’ll make a dark comedy holofilm about the infighting after Krasnov’s death.
I disagree. He won’t choose an uggo like Loomer. Even plastic surgery couldn’t help her. She may be down for blowjays on command, but he won’t want to breed with her. These MAGAs are closet eugenicists, even though Trump has never heard that word, but he knows about plantation owners breeding their slaves, so he understands how it works.
Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller will tell him that he wants someone with good genes, although Trump will think PeeWee said “Good Jeans,” and think it means a chick with a good ass, and he’ll demand, “Get me a 12 year old with a hot ass!” and the entire US government will be tasked to find a pretty child for him to rape and impregnate, for the good of the nation.
Hopefully, before any of that happens, he’ll just stroke out in the middle of a dumb speech, accompanied by a confused facial expression, a hilarious vocal noise, and a loud wet fart.
When that happens, put me down for $50 on MAGA Cloning Program in the betting pool.
see i thought they picked Loomer as their next … i can’t even think of the word it’s so heinous. not breeder, not incubator just living womb. like, years ago. and then the dementia set in and that’s the only reason she keeps buzzing around.
No, things would not change. Republicans would still control the Supreme Court. Over the last couple of years they learned that they can get away with anything: breaking any laws they want, straight out stealing money, building concentration camps, sending gestapo to murder people… They will not stop doing this only because Trump is dead.
Who exactly will take over after Trump is impossible to tell. Watch The Death of Stalin by Iannucci. This is exactly what will happen. A lot of infighting and backstabbing until new king of MAGA is crowned.
Watch The Death of Stalin by Iannucci
i have been watching this every year with hope
Satan keeps his people alive. He has more energy than most 40 year olds.
79 is not that old? Most people dont live to be 85. So yeah, its pretty old… The average age of death for males in America is 76 years old. Only 1 in 10 males reaches 90.
