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    Does this mean Americans are going to revolt and build themselves a new government with new leaders who are not corrupt?

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    Soon you’ll need a passport to vote thanks to republicans.

    Can’t wait for lemmy to start blaming poor people for not being able to afford to vote.

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    Ah yes, the solution to bad people in power is to not even bother trying to vote for change, doing nothing will totally solve this problem.

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          Israhell, USrael, Isreal… I don’t have the slightest bit of respect for that shithole of a nazi country so I’ll call it as I see fit, anything but its real name.

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              I’m getting the impression that you think I care about how others see me when I insult the modern nazis and… You’re wrong. I don’t. I enjoy calling them names of any kind. I don’t think they are more than an evil and dumb caricature of a human being so I’m treating them like such.

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                " I don’t think they are more than an evil and dumb caricature of a human being so I’m treating them like such."

                This, by the way is original Nazi- Sprech! Nazi - Talk for non Germans.

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                  Are you upset because I don’t think nazis deserve human treatment? Because that’s what it looks like. And just in case it wasn’t obvious, yes, I do think that nazis (like those zionists from USrael) crossed the line that separates them from human beings a while ago. If that bothers you, I strongly recommend you to block me, because I strongly believe that the only good nazi is a dead nazi.

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                You don’t insult the " Nazis", you just insult yourself in a very childish way. And all the Hate that spills out of your Keyboard isn’t get less, while you just trying to find another creative way to make funny names. Try to be mature.

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        I mean, by absolute numbers, the genocide under Trump is actually less destructive than the genocide under Biden. Trump is more cruel and crass about it. But the cold hard inescapable truth is that far more Gazans died under Biden than will die under Trump. Trump has active malice about Palestinians, Biden simply didn’t even consider them human and worthy of any consideration whatsoever.

        As far as prices, again, inflation is lower under Trump that it was under Biden.

        I hate Trump’s guts, but you’re describing things that Biden objectively performed worse than Trump on. You’re falling for the assumption that Trump is automatically worse at Biden than everything.

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          Keep in mind, israel killed the journalists that were reporting the deaths early on, aka, during Biden’s term.

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            The most intensive bombing and fighting was during Biden’s term. That’s when most of the deaths happened. But, people will reflexively downvote the truth. All they know is that Trump=bad. Therefore, it’s impossible for any Democrat to ever be as bad or worse than him on anything. Blue MAGA at work.

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              Again, the death rate in Gaza has been like 65k since May of 2025. While I’ve heard from credible sources that deaths in Gaza alone are like 300k now. So you’re only basing your judgment on what was reported, while the journalist were doing it were still alive.

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              Blue maga isn’t a thing, that’s Russian agitprop and you’re mindlessly repeating it to get republicans elected in the midterms.

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                Why wouldn’t it be a thing? Do you think someone is magically immune to certain kinds of mental failings simply because of what color shirt they wear?

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                  Stupid people are everywhere but you’re still repeating propaganda intended to benefit republicans. It also creates a false equivalency between republican and democratic platforms which is wildly disingenuous to anyone who isn’t stupid. It’s another attempt at both sides. Only stupid people fall for that shit.

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        “We”? Who’s we? Nintendo Wii? Or are you speaking French right now?

        Most progressives did vote for Kamala, you clown. Criticizing and objecting and calling out a candidate’s bad policies does not mean they won’t vote for them if it comes down to it. You liberals are the most fragile wallflowers in the planet, there’s a reason people call you blue MAGA. You can’t fathom someone criticizing a person and still voting for them. It doesn’t compute in your fucking brain, you see any criticism as a sin and a sign that person will not vote, vote third party, or vote for the republican.

        Newsflash, the world doesn’t work like that, you giant toddler in the body of a 30+ year old.

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              Well, for starters, don’t go calling “clown” someone you don’t even know based on a single sentence (let alone any of the other names you called me, but I digress…). The people I was referring to were not those who voted for Kamala and criticize what she does. But those who didn’t vote for her (roughly a 30% of the voting population) because “both sides”.

              You call me “liberal” when you don’t even know if I’m from your continent (spoilers: I’m not) and don’t know what do I vote in my continent and my country (even more spoilers, I tend to vote the parties furthest in the left spectrum).

              Then you call me “blue MAGA” (again, I’m not American, and I mean it as inhabitant of the whole continent) and a “fragile wallflower”? Mate, I’m autistic, if I were a “fragile wallflower” I would have already committed suicide for the amount of bullying I’ve suffered.

              Not only I CAN fathom someone criticizing a person and still voting for them, I DO IT EVERY SINGLE TIME I FUCKING VOTE because I believe we should held politicians accountable.

              The rest is not even worth of commenting because you just go saying senseless stuff.

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          Blue maga is Russian agitprop attempting to get progressives not to vote Dem. Don’t fall for it.

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      Every single person you berate for “not voting for imperfect candidates” already fucking does it. You’re bashing people on your own team for the purpose of punching left. But every time we try to push on the fucking PRIMARY for a candidate that isn’t complete dogshit, you fucks sabotage them at every turn, and then act surprised when you lose because you forced the bad unimpressive corporate candidate forth due to “electability” and red scare bullshit.

      Progressives as a collective are not marxist-leninists. Stop treating us like we are. MLs spend 16 hours a day being loud in the internet, most of us actual progressives have actual lives and organize IRL instead of wanking over Marx and telling Ukranian children they’re Nazis on social media.

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        No, they don’t already do that, because turnout is dogshit, if everyone did that we wouldn’t have that problem.

        Please criticize the fuck out of the candidates and policies, they fucking suck and they need to know we want progressives not the crap they are parading around, but this meme isn’t doing that, it’s just sending the message that it’s pointless to try, it feels like right wing created content to keep people from bothering to vote at all, and when you look at the numbers, that’s exactly what’s happening.

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          Please criticize the fuck out of the candidates and policies,

          All criticism is welcome except any particular criticism.

          but this meme isn’t doing that, it’s just sending the message that it’s pointless to try

          No, the party sends that message. The meme just details the mechanism by which they send it.

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          As a criticism of the DNC, the meme’s pretty close to the truth, even if it does inspire apathy – like Lucy yanking the football away every time, it’s the DNC who sabotage nominees who intend to implement effective change of the system.

          But since there’s no other viable ball to kick, the electorate need to kick anyway – and spend the rest of the time organizing on a national level and engaging politically on a local level to shitcan Lucy. (This metaphor isn’t especially extensible!)

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            As a criticism of the DNC, the meme’s pretty close to the truth, even if it does inspire apathy

            The meme doesn’t inspire apathy. The party’s behavior does.

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          No, they don’t already do that, because turnout is dogshit, if everyone did that we wouldn’t have that problem.

          This is a comforting lie educated liberals tell themselves. The truth is that today, the Democratic party represents voters who vote more reliably, while the Republicans represent more disengaged infrequent voters. This changed over the last decade or so, but people haven’t gotten the memo. It used to be that Republicans did better in low-turnout elections. But now the opposite is true. Republicans now thrive on low-information, low-engagement voters - the exact type of voters that would vote more in your scenario of everyone turning out. If everyone had voted in 2024, Trump would have won by an even larger margin.

          This makes sense if you think about it. Today, Democrats’ real only message is, “vote strategically, we aren’t Republicans.” They offer very little of actual substance beyond not being Trump. Low-engagement voters aren’t going to care about your message of not being Trump. They don’t have the same loyalties regular voters do. And they’re not going to educate themselves on things like Project 2025.

          Trump won low-engagement voters because he had simple direct messages that could reach them. Trump was going to put money in your pocket and clamp down on crime. That was his message. That was what he offered. Harris offered “I’m not Trump.” To a well-educated liberal, not being Trump is enough, as you pay attention to politics and know exactly what kind of evil shit Trump has gotten up to. But “I’m not Trump” doesn’t work for the low-engagement voters vital to win an election.

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          American reading comprehension being under a 6th grade level doing the heavy lifting here, huh? The context of the original comic is Lucy yanking the ball away before Charlie has the chance to kick it. The lesson is that Charlie shouldn’t stop trying to kick the ball, it’s that Lucy should stop being an asshole by taking it. This is not trying to lower turnout for the DNC, this is trying to sarcastically say this manipulative shit doesn’t work and doesn’t increase turnout. It’s doing the fucking opposite of what you’re saying.

          Plenty of candidates have won despite a multitude of criticism towards them. If your candidate can’t beat anyone because of those criticisms, then they were a weak candidate anyways.

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            Also it’s important to realize that Charlie Brown is a good-natured sucker being taken advantage of by a manipulative person.

            Eventually even the most gullible suckers give up.

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            You’re spot on and these downvotes are EXACTLY why things are the way they are.

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        Did you see this post? Its not about voting in primaries. It’s about not participating because the ball is going to be pulled out in front of you. Yes, vote in primaries. Also, vote in the general for the best candidate.

        You say everyone already votes in the general, but that’s blatantly not true. There’s an especially rampant trolling effort to get people not to vote who would vote against Republicans. It’s strategic apathy. It happened last time, and it’s happening now. If you don’t see this, you’re blind.

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            Really showing off that American education, “instead of voting for the less genocidal platform I’ll enable the much more genocidal platform because I don’t understand civics or harm reduction!”

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              @edible_funk

              Just saying, when you support genocide, some people will take a stand, and you won’t always like how they do it.

              . . . not to mention lying about it, calling opponents of genocide antisemites . . .

              I’m sorry if you still can’t see how some people would look at all of that and realize that both sides want them dead.

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                And a grade school understanding of civics should inform you that not voting is a vote for republicans, so you still made a choice and that choice was directly for everything that’s currently happening. Principles aren’t really relevant when the results are obvious.

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        If you vote for Democrats in general elections, they’re not talking about you. There are a lot of dumbasses on the left who don’t vote, or throw their votes away on hopeless third parties.

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          Except when we criticize the shit the DNC pulls you all show up and say, “oh, you just don’t want people to vote?!?!”

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            In this post, one of you replied to me:

            I don’t vote. Good people don’t vote.

            So the concern isn’t unfounded.

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              One of me? I’m pretty sure I’m the only one of me. And in response to your comment that I replied to you, you specifically said this wasn’t about those of us who do vote, so that comment has nothing to do with me at all.

              Try again, maybe put on your thinking cap.

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                Did I lump you in with a group to which you do not belong? Heaven forfend!

                Who is the “we” you are referring to here?

                Except when we criticize the shit the DNC pulls you all show up and say, “oh, you just don’t want people to vote?!?!”

                And who are the “you all”? iM pReTTy ShUr Im ThE OnLy OnE of MEEE!

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                  So again, you said “if you vote, I’m not taking about you.” I said, “except when we criticize democrats you tell us we don’t want people to vote.” Then you lumped me in with people who don’t vote.

                  Is thinking really this hard for you? The “we” I’m referring to are the ones of us who vote and also are fed up with the way the DNC runs the party. This is just…not confusing. How are you this perplexed? Do you need a nap? You seem to be getting really emotional.

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          If you vote for Democrats in general elections, they’re not talking about you.

          Tell me you’ve never criticized the centrist wing of the party without saying you’ve never criticized the centrist wing of the party.

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            You need to consciously work on eliminating these Reddit speech patterns from your vocabulary. It’s like nails on a chalkboard.

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              Tone policing is certainly one way to indicate that you cannot address what I said. Concession accepted. You’ve never criticized the genocide wing, so you’ve never encountered the behavior of the genocide wing toward its critics.

              The genocide wing blames everyone to the left of netanyahu for his pet’s loss, regardless of how they voted.

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          Those people are not numerous enough to matter. They’re mostly internet MLs who spend 16 hours a day yapping on social media so they look like the common consensus.

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            2016 Election: Stein Votes vs. Trump Margin

            • Michigan: Trump won by 10,704 votes. Stein received 51,463 votes.
            • Wisconsin: Trump won by 22,748 votes. Stein received 31,006 votes.
            • Pennsylvania: Trump won by 46,765 votes. Stein received 49,678 votes.
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              Ahh yes blame the people who believe in democracy enough to vote their conscience, the smallest percentage of people. And not the cheaters.

              Definitely not the bomb threats, the thrown out voter rolls, the mail-in ballots in ditches, the constant redistricting. It’s the tiniest percentage of people who have all the power.

              Nevermind the Michigan Data, or the Pennsylvania Data. Or the 30%-40% that sit the fuck out every national election. No it’s that tiny percent.

              For the record I voted Harris because I do believe in harm reduction over absolutism, but it’s fucking stupid to blame the third party voters that happen to actually believe in democracy and that you should vote for who you want, not who can win.

              Frankly if we as a nation would had voted for a third party or independent candidate sooner, it’s quite possible the either Major Party would have died like the Whigs when the Republican Party came onto the scene.

              Just think about it critically instead of continuing that stupid ass dogma that got us here in the first place.

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                Stein was a spoiler and a Russian asset, if voting your conscious meant voting for her your conscious is fuckin stupid.

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                  You can see how refusing to distance herself from genocide left an opening that spoiler candidates could exploit, can’t you?

                  And since you and a bunch of other dopey centrists are gonna imagine that this is somehow an admission of a vote for stein if I don’t say this: I voted for harris.

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                  I don’t disagree which is why I’ve never voted Stein. The Green Party has never been a serious third party to me, but seems to get brought up as a strawman at every turn when a blueberry wants to avoid their cognitive dissonance.

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                National elections are so close these days, any of these things could be the but-for difference maker in any given election. Certainly the large number of non-voters you mention (I’m note sure if any of those election fraud claims are consequential).

                But, in this thread, we are responding to one particular group that consistently helps Republicans win, because they’re the ones who posted it, and they’re here in the comments to be argued with!

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                  Except it’s never been their fault. Even in the “best” years third party voters make up less than 5% of the electorate. It’s a lie of statistics to not mention the non-voters. You’re telling me that the third party voters are more at fault than politician whose job is to get elected being unable to steal that percentage from the non voters?

                  No what does happen instead? What did The Democratic Party do not long before the election? Did they appeal to the Non-Voters? Or did they appeal to “moderate” Republicans? Did they go for the larger percentage, or one that was no doubt slim and taken for?

                  Like doesn’t it seem silly to blame 5 when 30 is such a larger number? Isn’t it dumb to blame people treating democracy like democracy instead of the politicians that won’t meet the electorate where it matters?

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                  National elections are so close these days, any of these things could be the but-for difference maker in any given election.

                  The party should start behaving accordingly, then. Instead they alienate their base by sprinting to the right in an idiotic attempt to get republican votes. Republicans hate you. They are not going to vote for you.

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                They don’t all have to be. Look closely again at the numbers and you’ll notice some are larger than others. Think of the implications of that.

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                You do it, lazy.

                I’ve made my point about you people supposedly not being numerous enough to matter. A few hundred thousand votes is easily enough to matter if the election is close enough. And you never know how close an election will be before it happens.

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                  I’ve made my point about you people supposedly not being numerous enough to matter. A few hundred thousand votes is easily enough to matter if the election is close enough. And you never know how close an election will be before it happens.

                  So maybe the party should start treating us as though we’re people with agency whose votes they need.

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          More voting is what solves this not less

          Betrayal discourages voting, but the party keeps doing it anyway.

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                Yeah they’re exactly the same. That must be why you spend all your time shitting on the parties trying to stop the fascist but rarely say anything against the farther right parties. Makes sense

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                  That must be why you spend all your time shitting on the parties trying to stop the fascist

                  Democrats try to appease fascists. They try to stop progressives. Haven’t you noticed?

                  but rarely say anything against the farther right parties.

                  I don’t have much occasion to reply to pushback from the farther right parties on lemmy. I’m ok with that. Please don’t invite them.

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        If progressives voted in the primaries in numbers then we’d have progressive candidates, but the average progressive seems to believe that the Dems are just as bad as the republicans because Americans are unfathomably stupid.

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      What about this comic makes you think the point is “Charlie should stop trying to kick the ball” and not “Lucy should stop pulling this shit”?

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        The Lucy pulling the football thing has always been about the fact that Lucy is an asshole that Charlie Brown should not trust, and that Charlie Brown should stop trying to kick the football.

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      Ah yes, the solution to bad people in power is to not even bother trying to vote for change

      Bad people in power make sure change isn’t on the ballot.

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      Try the completely empty slogan “vote for change you can believe in”, worked for the drone king

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      Not doing nothing! Rising up and overthrowing capitalism. How, you ask? You know, rising up! What practical plan is there for afterwards? Plenty of time to figure that out later!

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    the Dinos allowed it, plus they refuse to actually report on the election results of '24,'20 and 16. they know they was rigging.Its not like the Republicans will suddenly stop calling the elections rigged anyways.

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    Americans need to organize themselves out of 2 party system. It’s the only way and funnily enough - it would be a much more of an american system because US is all about competition, right?

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    a lot of people assuming that the implied message of the meme is “Charlie Brown should stop trying to kick the ball” instead of “Lucy should stop pulling the ball away”

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      This isn’t a gotcha. Most ideological demographics are tiny minorities too small to succeed alone, but 3% of the vote could be the difference between a narrow win and a narrow loss for the DNC.

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        Progressives are not the ones who put you in this position. You did by consistently voting for weak, ineffective leaders. Low information, low engagement voters are what caused Trump to win. You can’t win those people with a “We’re not Trump” message, because for them that message is meaningless, they don’t have any party loyalties or even research who they vote for. They vote based on the message, and you’ve failed to deliver a good message for the past 10 years.

        Also, learn the context of the original comic before embarrassing yourself in the replies.

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          If progressives voted in the primaries we’d have policy representation in the party. But we mostly don’t because of takes like yours.

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                I voted in the primaries I had available to me. You got the genocidal shit you wanted without a primary.

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                  “Everyone but me wants genocide”

                  Put the insane club away and stop harassing people with unintelligible BS. You heard something and you are throwing it at everyone, even if its irrelevant.

                  Yes people want primaries. Duh. Not having one last time was an epic fuck-up. Bernie being screwed over also fucked us all. Or does he love genocide because you dislike him too?

                  Of COURSE everyone you disagree with loves genocide, dont you???

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          Which comic do you think I’ve misinterpreted, cranky progressive?

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            The one that this meme format used, dipshit. Have you bothered to learn what happens on it and why it’s being used here?

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              Well, there’s a comic in the post, and a comic in the comment thread we’re replying under, so I just wanted to clarify which one you were referring to. The “Lucy and the Football” trope is commonly used as an analogy for a sucker who keeps falling for the same trick. In this case, it’s calling progressives who vote for Democrats suckers, implying progressives should not vote for Democrats. This helps Republicans win. Dipshit.

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                No, it’s not that. The lesson of the comic is that Lucy should stop fucking yoinking the ball every time he tries to kick it. LUCY is the one being an asshole. AKA, the DNC begs for votes from progressives, promising things to them, and then they proceed to not only NOT do what they promised, but also refuse to do their fucking job. Which is the bare fucking minimum people should ask of politicians, but according to people like YOU that’s too much to ask and will result in them fucking losing as if criticism is going to derail their chances. If criticism derailed politicians into losing, TRUMP WOULD NOT BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

                You’re part of the “54% of Americans read and interpret text at a level below 6th grade” statistic.

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                  Your bespoke interpretation of the Lucy comic is self-serving and almost certainly wrong. Charles Schulz is long dead, so we can’t know for sure, but I’d bet if we could ask him what the point of the strip was, it would be something along the lines of “It’s funny that Charlie keeps falling for the same trick” and not “The reader is supposed to tsk tsk and say ‘Lucy really should cut that out!’”

                  It’s called slapstick. Believe it or not, it’s supposed to be funny.

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          Because nothing the United States is doing under Trump is different than what it was doing under Biden, and under Trump I, and under Obama, and under Bush, and under Clinton.

          Fucking nothing.

          bull fucking shit.

          look, hate harris all you want, but iran? venezuela? cuba? migrants in cages?

          fuck off with that bullshit, it’s not the same, you simply cannot fathom the concept of harm reduction and will happily burn all your allies because you didn’t get your way.

          POLITICS IS NOT MARRIAGE, YOU DON’T GET TO PICK YOUR IDEAL PARTNER.

          you fucking children damned us to all this bullshit. great fucking work.

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            look, hate harris all you want, but iran? venezuela? cuba? migrants in cages?

            Remember Afghanistan? Iraq? Syria, Libya, Yemen, Ukraine? And also Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and a dozen others? And all the proxy wars and “interventions” I’m forgetting about or that never made the news?

            Pre-Trump America was less blatant in its warmongering. It made the effort to build “international consensus” before bombing the fuck out of poor brown people. And it preferred to made economic warfare, through sanctions, which don’t make headlines when they kill poor brown people.

            Harris would have killed Iranians with sanctions rather than bombs. And perhaps you think that makes a difference. But whether a little girl dies of starvation from American sanctions, or is blown up by American bombs, she’s still fucking dead.

            Fuck, Trump’s “random bombing go” strategy let Iran close the Strait and made America take the blame for it - and if that lets Iran negotiate with the world and end Western sanctions using the Strait as leverage, Trump’s war might end up saving more lives than it kills.

            As for migrants in cages: Trump made no new laws. Trump made no new policies, even. Trump enforced existing laws more harshly and blatantly and publicly than America previously had. And Harris promised to do the same fucking thing in her campaign.

            What’s happening to migrants today is what the American people wanted. The killings, the beatings, the disappearances, the private prisons and forced labor and inhumane conditions, all of it.

            Only we saw it happen openly, on the streets in Minneapolis, in front of a million cell phones and cameras, instead of out in the Texas desert where the only cameras belong to the Border Patrol. And seeing the Border Patrol treat middle class white protesters like immigrants was too much for some people.

            Putting migrants in cages is what America wants. America just doesn’t want to see the cages. It hurts their feelings.

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              bull fucking shit.

              get fucked.

              people like you will do anything to drag down the left so it seems as bad as the pedos and war criminals. get fucked with a red hot jackhammer you equivocating dirtbag

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                  No tears here baby, at least I can see the difference between trying on the left and fascism on the right. You keep voting for trump, get the life you deserve.

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            POLITICS IS NOT MARRIAGE, YOU DON’T GET TO PICK YOUR IDEAL PARTNER.

            You got your ideal partner. You got genocide and don’t care who provides it.

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          You’re very confident in your prediction that accelerationism will work out in the end.

          Did you vote for Trump? Because that would have been the rational decision based on your worldview.

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            I don’t vote.

            Good people don’t vote.

            I may not be a good person but I try my best.

            And at least I can claim the dignity of refusing to participate in the Epstein class’s quadrennial popularity contest.

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              Good people don’t vote.

              you allowed the epstein president another term. stop lying to yourself.

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                I’m sorry, what presidential candidate in the last five generations wasn’t part of the Epstein class?

                Even Bill Clinton, a poor boy from rural Arkansas, got to be an honorary member of the Epstein class. And my God did he enjoy the privileges of that class.

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                  you live in an entirely delusional world kiddo.

                  Obama is part of the epstein class huh?

                  anything to drag them down to the GOP side’s behavior, even if you have to make it up. You’re just a giant sad fucking example of people who can’t tell the difference between “not my pick” and “fascist fucks”

                  you didn’t get your way, you cried, and everyone else has to suffer your stupidity, you dolt