Almost like working remote makes sense if people can complete their whole job at home.
I’m doing one day a week in the office right now and I loathe that one day. Literally all of the servers and services I’m responsible for are hosted at Azure so it doesn’t matter where I’m at.
That one day is literally to weed out employees and justify the companies expenditure on office space.
Yup, and anyone that complies but complains is automatically put under suspicion of “quiet quitting”. It’s all a huge fucking game, and you only learn the rules as you play and only if you pay close attention. Best to keep your head down and just comply quietly…until you can find something better before the next round of layoffs.
The joke is on them then, we “went back” to the office in 2021 and I’ve been doing this since.
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Same. Ridiculous. I work on a computer, it doesn’t really matter where I am as long as I’m at the computer. So why force me through an unpaid commute?
I spoke up in a recent meeting about how big of a pay cut it would be to come back into the office. Supervisor and even coworkers were just like …ya.
Alright, so everyone has just accepted this shit as inevitable!?
Hell, no. I was hired remote, the position was approved as remote, and remote is where I’m going to stay.
If I go job hunting, that’s my #1 criteria. I took less money because remote, and because health insurance. I stand by that decision today, and would do the same again.
Paying more for not offering remote is the bare minimum for office workers
Office workers should start unionizing. If they’re going to force you into work at least make them pay you for your time.
Less likely to happen than IT workers union, but if it happens ot will be HUGE
I’d require an immediate $5000 / year pay increase to even consider it.
Wouldn’t be nearly enough to get me back in an office. The benefits of working full time from home are worth far more than $5k/yr.
Especially if you have kids. Daycare adds $1300-$1500 per month for one child.
Daycare, vehicle ownership and maintenance costs, commute time…
Being sick because people come in with their fucking germs.
Which is also a peek for the business because some call in sick when they have a cold and you could still work from home…
You still need daycare if you have kids at home, remote or not. You can’t honestly tell me you are getting work done with your kids at home, unless they are like >9
Heck, I remember a company car being with around $8k salary-wise a few years ago. That was just for fuel & maintenance.
yeah 5k is what, barely over $400 a month? so for free groceries essentially this person would skip out on remote work lol
I recently had a recruiter reach out offering a 3day in the office hybrid position. I said I’d be happy to chat assuming they meet my salary requirements.
Those requirements are 50% more pay. Simple.
I don’t mind going to the office when it is useful, but having a tues-thurs schedule means at least half the time I’ll be sitting there with headphones on trying to block out the world while trying to ignore random chatters.
Hell, I’m looking at taking a $30k total compensation hit and jumping to a remote first organization. Given I’m trying to leave for many other reasons, but if they weren’t remote first the decision would be much harder.
That’s right around the cut I took, totally worth it. As a bonus, the new company expects me to be here when I’m working, and to NOT be here when I’m not working. Seems like such a basic concept, but I was ‘on’ or ‘on call’ 24/7 for years at the old job. No more of that either. Quality of life is worth a bunch of money to me…
My experience has been the opposite. I make way more remote, because I’m able to travel the world remotely, and can go where the money is. No more needing to put up with local wages that have been stagnant for a decade, and a stagnant local culture that’s stuck 30 years in the past.
That’s what they are really scared about.
I worked it out, parking, wear and tear on the car + the loss in value in putting in way more mileage, fuel, and time. It added up to more than $40k.
I mean yeah gas alone is at least 75% more expensive.
Just looked it up. It’s 43% more now than this time 4 years ago.
Though at it’s peak back in June, it was 76% higher than June 4 years ago.Gas hit $4 a gallon in 2008, I paid $2.79 for gas yesterday. The numbers could show what we want to with gas. Working in office sucks and I’d like to be compensated. 1.5 hrs to work and 1 hr home for the most part. So I am around $500 a month gas wise, and 50 hrs a month of used time that I am out. It sucks
As someone fortunate enough to be able to negotiate - there is no way I will do office work ever again as long as it’s avoidable. I’d skip the country to enforce remoteness before calling an office my life.
So it’s not surprising to him that, when asked what work perks would get hybrid employees to return in-person more often, the No. 1 response was if their commuting costs were covered (38%), over other things like free food, child-care subsidies or a relaxed dress code.
Those aren’t perks, those are reduced but still unnecessary hardships. I don’t have a dress code, travel expenses, or travel time. Wake up and work when I’m most switched on.
Pro-office folk only care about control and realestate.
To be fair, team building isn’t great unless your team is a bunch of introverts so that is one point for office.
I prefer 100% WFH because I can spend the commute time with my kids and tell them outright that time is worth another 100k which I’ve never had taken up. I have solar at home so I make no energy footprint while I work too.
My employer is asking me to come in 3x a week when on the bench. Maybe 2x when assigned on a project.
I don’t live far from work, but I spend on bus tickets just to go to and come back from the office. Buying a monthly bus pass isn’t worth it for me considering how much I go out. The bus fare increased quite a bit in the past 5 years.
Plus I have to buy lunch everytime I go because I can’t carry a lunch with an the equipment. And food from restaurants or food courts have become ridiculously expensive.
I’d be willing to go once or twice a week. More than that is useless and costly.
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