New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe::More than 38 million COVID-19 vaccine doses have been administered in Ontario as of Oct. 8, with 23,002 reports of adverse reactions, an incidence of 0.06 per cent, Public Health Ontario says
Also, old evidence confirms it.
I guess whatever it takes to convince the skeptics. Though I figure nothing will convince them once they’ve made up their mind.
Cannot use logic to convince someone whose argument isn’t logical in the first place
I’ve always preferred it phrased as “You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into,” but same energy.
The sound you’re hearing is goalposts being shuffled around.
Sometimes the goalposts are moved and merged with goalposts from other conspiracy theories.
When 5g wasn’t the end of humanity it became the trigger for a zombie virus…hidden in the vaccine!
Wonder what third thing will become the new first domino to knock over the 5g and vaccine dominoes.
It’s really loud! 😬
Guys the reason this study is important is because covid vaccines used revolutionary technology, they were the first to use mRNA based protein. If you remember we sequenced its genome within 40 days the making the vaccine was considerably easy. This is the main reason it took only 2 years for the vaccine to be made compared to years of development for other vaccines.
It also means that, with this new vaccine technology, we can develop vaccines faster and faster
Could we just say that all evidence confirms it?
What a surprise! who could have seen this coming!
I can almost hear all the scientists groan.
I didn’t need a study for that. I mean we vaccinated ones are still pretty much alive, despite all the warnings of the dum-dums.
Something, something, comorbidities…
Sorry, I forgot that only applies to COVID deaths.
Obviously people misunderstood. I’m very much pro vaccine - fully vaccinated and triple boosted.
I was making reference to the fact that anti-vaxxers were citing comorbidities in regards to COVID deaths to downplay the numbers while refusing to do so for deaths shortly after vaccination. This was especially galling in light of the fact that the first groups vaccinated were the most vulnerable: the elderly.
Genuinely impressive how a vaccine made under the conditions and time constraints COVID faced is so effective.
That’s because most of the groundwork in developing mrna vaccines had already been done for years and years. This wasn’t “how do we invent a vaccine for covid?”, this was “how do we adapt this proven, well-understood vaccine tech so that it works for covid just like it does for the ebola virus that we originally developed it for?”
There was also a large amount of money thrown at developing the vaccine because of the virus’ significant economic impacts.
I dunno, I got another shot last month and I developed super powers. I flew too close to the sun and caught on fire. I blame the shot. /s
What about their effectiveness?
I get that the first few versions might have stemmed the tide of the pandemic early on … but how effective are the new doses now?
I’m not an antivacer but I do question the way the pandemic was handled and continues to be handled. I trust scientists, I trust the medical community, I trust our current level of knowledge and expertise … I even trust our government to do the best they can with what they have … I just don’t trust seeing big corporate interests quietly influencing everything in the background.
I certainly don’t trust anyone or anything that reprimands me or is threatened by my questions or concerns.
I would feel a whole lot better about all this if corporate and financial interests were completely disconnected from all our health care and pharmaceutical systems. Basically, anything that has to do with human bodily health should not be controlled or deeply influenced by monied interests.
Their efficacy has been heavily studied and proven.
versions might have stemmed the tide of the pandemic
This is straight-up weasel language. There is no (rational) question as to whether the vaccines reduced hospitalizations due to COVID-19, or contraction of COVID-19 in general.
corporate and financial interests were completely disconnected from all our health care and pharmaceutical systems
This is not realistic in the slightest. Reasearch requires resources and the time and effort of highly qualified people.
Those are the official numbers, but I’ve heard time and time again from people with vaccine damages, that they have to basically force their doctors to even report their symptoms, so I have my doubts how accurate it is.
some very trustworthy people are telling me you actually ate 32 live cats.
I need to preface this by saying that I am in no way anti-vaccine, and this has nothing to do with politics.
But…
I got my last booster about 3 weeks ago, and I have been messed up ever since. Apparently there is something called Long Vax Syndrome that is currently being studied. Fortunately I don’t have some of the worst symptoms, but the fatigue is so real. Normally when I would get a covid booster I would be exhausted for about 24 hours, but this is unrelenting. I’ve never been this tired in my life, and it’s honestly a struggle. I am really hoping something comes of the research and they figure something out because I don’t know how long I can sustain this.
Same here. Also not ant-vax in general, very much pro-vax for the big three and whatnot. I got 2 vax and a booster willingly, but got sick as a dog all 3 times and missed work each time. The fatigue was crippling. I also got covid twice anyway so thats a bummer, but it wasnt any worse than the post-vax sickness. Maybe the vax reduced the severity of covid, but either way I think Ill pass on getting any more boosters for tbe time being. Ive had plenty of flu vaxes and never had an issue with them.
I have no idea why you’re getting downvotes on this. You’re relating your personal experience, and it’s clearly not an anti-vax type answer. Here’s an upvote to help offset that.
Bless you, how many boosters have you had and do you have any other underlying health issues?
So I got my first 2 shots way back when. And I think this is my 3rd booster?
No underlying health issues but it might be worth noting that I got covid way at the beginning of the pandemic and I was hospitalized for a week. It was the sickest I have ever been in my life. I was sick for 2 weeks before I went to the hospital because back then it was next to impossible to get a test, and it took forever to get results back.
I don’t know if I’m one of the few that is just voulerable to covid or whatever, and maybe because of that the vaccine has a chance to hite differently? I don’t know. There’s still so much unknown about covid, but I’m really hoping this fatigue clears up because quality of life is way down right now. It’s been very difficult to work and take care of my daughter etc. Driving isn’t safe… It’s not great.
So… long COVID then. The vaccine doesn’t undo you having already had it…
Are Republicans still waiting for people who got the initial vaccine to drop dead overnight? lol.
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The thing that increased anti-vaxx sentiment and theories of the vaccines killing you or whatever, was governments around the world going full fash with them.
If you don’t take the vaccine, you can’t enter establishments, you can’t work, you’ll be denied healthcare ahead of someone who has been vaccinated, fined if you don’t take it (in the case of Germany) etc etc. If you want people to get vaccinated en masse, this is entirely the opposite way of doing it. It’s no surprise that there’s now been a decline in vaccine uptake in general.
That whole period when the vaccines first came out and the governmental coercion has actively damaged public health messaging for the foreseeable future.
full fash
You mean, they told people they couldn’t spread a dangerous virus to others? How very “fash.”
Fuck that bullshit.
If the vaccines completely stopped the virus spreading, this may have been a good point.
People die in car accidents despite wearing their seatbelts. Forcing people to wear their seatbelts while driving is wrong because it doesn’t grant 100% survival rate.
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Ah, the classic “seatbelt analogy”. Everyone’s favourite vaccine analogy that makes zero sense if you actually just stop and think about it for a minute.
Go on.
How long a minute are you taking? It’s been three years.
I’m actually an excellent driver while drunk. Maybe some people can’t handle it but, but I haven’t had an accident once. The laws should be updated to make it legal since drinking and driving doesn’t 100% guarantee you’ll get into an accident.
Another ridiculous analogy.
Keep going, maybe you might get to one that makes sense.
you know you’re actually supposed to provide counter arguments, maybe explaining your reasoning and thought process?
The whole period before about behaving responsibility and using masks showed you all you needed to know about how responsible and interested in the general wellbeing most people were so it only made sense to not leave it up to chance with that.
And it’s not like anyone was forced - only other people were secured from coming in contact with irresponsible and self-centred people that couldn’t care less about them
Here in the UK, during the first lockdown, social distancing and the like was adhered to do quite well. More so than the scientists and government expected. Mainly because it was simple instruction that didn’t stop you from going about your business when you needed to get your groceries.
And it’s not like anyone was forced
No, they were just told they couldn’t participate in society. But then when they realised that the messaging wasn’t working, they gave up on it.
No, they were just told they couldn’t participate in society.
Yes, when you pose a greater risk to society you do not get to participate in it. This has been true since the start of societies.
Do the vaccines work or not?
Because if they do, the unvaccinated are not a threat to you.
I just don’t want them in society. If they’re unwilling to take the vaccine they probably also don’t wash their hands after using the bathroom.
So your view is based purely on prejudice, rather than on fact?
Interesting parallel to an anti-vaxxer who refuses vaccines based on misinformation, rather than fact.
