• penquin@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I just want kde on Wayland not to have blury font with fractional scaling. It’s just unusable. Once that’s fixed, I’m all set to use it as my daily driver.

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    I’m really looking forward to Plasma6. I know gnome has its fans but I am really just a reluctant user. Every day gnome works against me and I have to resort to workarounds.

    Do I want to navigate, inspect, and manipulate my files quickly? I use dolphin.

    Do I want to have a convenient panel to get a very quick glance of my currently running programs as well as a place to pin my most commonly used ones? That’s an extension.

    Do I want sub-windows to always block their parent window, preventing me from interacting with the parent further? No solution.

    Do I want desktop icons? Do I want excessive notifications from common tasks my computer is doing instead of from my own programs?

    I have more complaints but I think I am making myself clear. Overall I do like gnome and it has good performance, but there are so many annoying aspects. KDE is itself not perfect. There’s enough reasons for me to continue using gnome over kde5. But that’s why I hold out hope for plasma 6.

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      Anybody else really hate how a lot of gnome programs have settings that are hidden in the optional gnome-tweaks program instead of putting them in the control panel or program preferences? I swear gnome3 is the only DE that genuinely despises its users.

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      1 year ago

      What are your reasons to use gnome over kde? Most of the things you mentioned are reasons I use gnome over kde so I’m curious to know other perspectives.

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        Overall I do think KDE is more cluttered. So I like Gnome’s streamlined appearance (even if it omits too much). I also think the desktop compositor and shell are really well made, (i.e. mutter and gnome-shell), so I don’t really have performance complaints.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Plans were drafted in September to offer KDE Plasma 6 in Fedora 40.

    All of these releases should take place at the end of February to inaugurate the Plasma 6.0 desktop.

    Fedora 40 meanwhile should be out by the end of April and the Fedora KDE spin or those otherwise manually installing the KDE desktop will thus be able to enjoy the fresh Plasma 6 experience.

    Well, the FESCo members have signed off on the Plasma 6.0 plan and the X11 support removal is still included.

    FESCo members voted in this ticket to approve the Plasma 6.0 change proposal for Fedora 40.

    Separately being pursued as well for Fedora 40 is removing the GNOME X11 session support.


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    • pathief@lemmy.world
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      I don’t think anyone is an X11 fan boy. We all know Wayland is the future. I would be using it if it worked on my machine.

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      How hard do you have to search to find these x11 fanboys? Because whenever this topic comes up, the only detractors I see are users who complain because they can’t use wayland for various reasons.

      On the other hand those on the other extreme are easier to find, as they always celebrate x11 users (willingly or not) getting screwed; so toxic.

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    I wonder if they consulted Plasma devs about it. Sure they said that they aim to make Wayland ready for Plasma 6, but it didn’t sound like it was an actual plan for 6.0. After all they got their hands full with Qt 6 porting, and there are still major roadblocks with completing Wayland support, while 6.0 is about to have its alpha release already.

    Knowing Fedora devs however, I suspect they didn’t. They switched to Plasma Wayland by default several Fedora releases ago, when it was in no way ready. I guess I will switch to a different distro when this time comes.

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      Yes, they did. Neal has been pushing for Wayland by default upstream for a while, and getting that in for Plasma 6.0 was and is the plan.

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      Or do what I do and don’t update for half a year. The previous version is supported for a month after the release the next-next version.

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        It’s still not enough time for KDE devs to fix all major issues with Wayland. It requires at least another two years in the oven.

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          Maybe. Depends on the usecase. I’ve been running wayland for a year or so without trouble. Using moonlight to another machine for gaming and such.

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      Yeah, as usual the opinionated crew are making something that one may even like feel like it’s forced down everyone’s throat (see: systemd, snap…) and making everything worse. I don’t see how any Linux desktop distro worth its salt can get by ignoring 90% of the PC GPU market share and essentially forcing them into an inferior desktop experience for pure ideology’s sake, and I LIKE Wayland. I even put up with all its quirks in a particularly quirky implementation (KWin). But this ain’t it if you want users to use your OS.