• Defaced@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Does it improve the bandwidth so higher quality codecs can be used without having to switch between good quality sound and shitty mics to shitty sound and good mics? I mean seriously, we’re in 2024 and we still can’t have quality parity with a wired headset when using Bluetooth because the bandwidth sucks so much ass that better codecs just can’t be used. Bluetooth can die in a fucking fire.

  • Railing5132@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I will die on the hill that Bluetooth always has and always will suck ass. Pairing sucks. Latency sucks. Random-ass disconnects suck. Fuck Bluetooth in the neck sideways with a rusty screwdriver.

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      1 year ago

      The bluetooth antennas on your devices have sucked. I have no problems with my pixel 7 pro. Pairs quickly, play music from across the house, through walls and floors even. Previous phones of mine would lose connection to my bluetooth headphones if my.phone was on the wrong hip, obviously an antenna issue.

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        1 year ago

        Until we can finally kill HSP/HFP, I’m never gonna be happy with Bluetooth. Using a headset mic shouldn’t blast you back to the telephone era.

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            1 year ago

            It’s the Handset Protocol/Handsfree Protocol that was developed for simultaneous sending and receiving of voice data. They’re the only protocols that support sending and receiving voice at the same time, and they do that by sending mono telephone quality audio and receiving mono telephone quality audio.

            It’s why most gaming headsets, even ones with Bluetooth, include a small RF dongle separately. Bluetooth is technically incapable of high-quality audio when recording.

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      1 year ago

      I mean my AirPods are fantastic. I think they’re great at playing my podcasts and I’ve not had any problems with random disconnects. Granted I’ve only ever used them with my phone but still.

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        1 year ago

        Shiny new AirPods + shiny new iPhone = minimal issues. Certainly preferable to cords for many, even if no dongle were required for many corded headphones.

        In fact AirPods + iPhones have been all but rock solid for years, at least since first gen kinks were worked out… so five years worth of high reliability.

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          1 year ago

          My AirPod Pros have also worked perfectly on my Linux PCs - just as solid as connecting to an Apple device.

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            1 year ago

            That is great to hear. Do you still have to pay the Apple tax if you want the full experience of say using your computer with the AirPods, getting a phone call which pauses your music and having them automatically switch over to the phone until you end the call?

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    1 year ago

    I just want a headset that doesn’t descend into hissing at me in mono over a crackly 1940s phoneline whenever I dare to use the microphone.

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      1 year ago

      I have some B&W Px2s and they’re fine when using the microphone, although the sound quality is the main selling point.

      Any of the AirPods that go in your ear have exceptional microphone quality.

      I find it hard to believe every pair of headphones you’ve ever tried has been trash, unless you’re just buying trash quality and expecting amazing hardware.

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        1 year ago

        Sorry for linking to the alien, but see this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/44sxms/bluetooth_headset_goes_to_low_audio_quality_when/

        As I understand it, standard Bluetooth cannot support quality audio and microphone.

        That said, lots of phones and headsets secretly support non standard profiles if you use the right hardware together, but at that point you can’t know if you’re going to get quality with your setup unless someone’s tested it thoroughly and half the time reviewers are either deaf or lying

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          As I say I’ve had no issues with AirPods and my current B&W are passable.

          Sure for audio quality isn’t as good Bluetooth as wired but as some who listens to a lot of classical I don’t really have the ears that can distinguish between different bitrates.

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            1 year ago

            I’m no audiophile either, I don’t care what profile it’s in in normal mode, but everything is instantly a disaster in headset mode.

            I know AirPods have some non standard support to escape the Bluetooth mess on apple hardware.

            I want a headset that works on windows, my phone, and mac, which means I’m stuck with standard support, which basically means I’m stuffed.

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      1 year ago

      If you don’t mind trading sound quality for convenience, I suppose. Bose has been a snake oil provider for decades.

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          I’m not sure I would call Bose snake oil, but the audiophile space certainly is full of it. On the one hand, you’ve got overpriced equipment that’s not very good value but works, and on the other you’ve got literal scams like gold plated fiber optics and “audiophile-grade” network switches that are literally incapable of changing the quality of your audio because the signals are digital and have error correction, so it will either work or it won’t. Placebo effect + choice-supportive bias are enough to get these things positive reviews though.

    • rigatti@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      When you read the article:

      We also get latency improvements through Isochronous Adaptation Layer (ISOAL) Enhancement. This allows the Bluetooth device to cut larger data frames into smaller chunks while ensuring its timing information remains accurate. This would help reduce latency and potentially make Bluetooth audio devices a viable solution for wireless audio, especially in gaming.

      That was unnecessarily snarky, but I couldn’t help myself. I don’t even know what any of that means or if it will actually actually reduce audio latency.