• flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    How quickly most companies have walked back all of the “moral” stances they have taken over the last few years, all within just a few weeks of the political winds changing, should be a lesson to everyone that there is no such thing as an ethical publicly traded company.

    They will do what they think will make the most money for the shareholders, no matter what. If you want them too “pay”, the only choice is to stop giving them money.

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      If anyone ever pays any attention to a company’s posturing and dewy eyes they are truly naive. It is just pandering at best. It is why I want them to be honest and cut out all of the “We celebrate group _____” and all that and just be honest. “We want to increase our stock price by 5 cents.” The best they can be is neutral. A small private company can be positive though.

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    Apple is just like the rest of big tech. They tried to play it as if they were the ethical one, but in the end all these private corpos are just the same.

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    Actually last time I checked apple did their keynotes mentioning the environment and stuff, greenwashing their choices… I’m curious what they’ll do now.

    Just like Tesla, they might have saturated their liberal userbase, I wouldn’t be too surprised if they took a more “neutral” stance

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    The one silver lining about the new US administration is that it has helped undermine some fundamental notions around American exceptionalism.

    American oligarchs are not that different from oligarchs in other countries.

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      Its been wonderful purging all my american owned crap from my smart speakers to reddit. Looking forward to getting a linux desktop for the first time in nearly 10 years!

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        Agreed, moving away from American tech stuff is becoming a priority.

        American oligarchs are no better than the oligarchs who work with putin or Xi. Perhaps even worse because they tend to be much more dishonest in their rhetoric (constant pompous rants about “changing the world for the better”).

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        I just switched over to Linux Mint and, while it’s not perfect, it’s so much better than windows.

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          All unplugged and sitting in a box. It feels much more like a home now that I’m not being constantly listened to.

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            Why would you have been okay with it enough to purchase one in the first place? As an American, it’s always been pretty clear that American companies are filled with horrible data management. They actively lobby against any sort of GDPR or equivalent data laws and regularly leak data with no real ramifications.

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              I never really took it as seriously as I should have. I genuinely gave up caring for the sake of ‘convenience’. I’ve seen the error of my ways since.

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      No, I don’t think it’s any particular election. I also don’t think those companies were somehow more liberal when Democrats were in power. But it’s a really bad tendency that they gradually lick the boot more and more. It means they are big enough to be controlled and threatened, and it means governmental overreach is strong enough.

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    Next up is Tim apple announcing his conversion therapy was successful and that he will now be marrying a blonde fox news anchor on the white house lawn. He’ll then run for Lindsey Graham’s senate seat and carry on the tradition of being the most closeted man in the Senate… And the world.

    When Lindsey Graham was asked who his first lady would be should he ever win the presidency, he replied… “My sister”.

    Just can’t take those swinging bachelors off the market… one at a time ladies.

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    Apple never was, and never will be not an evil company so why the surprise? Of course they do.

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    I guess a lot of good people will ditch Apple now, right? RIGHT?

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      I did only a quick search really but couldn’t find if any major android phone manufacturers had stopped advertising on there?

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        FOSS alternatives exist for many Android devices. Apple goes to great lengths to block every alternative on all hardware that isn’t mac. I’ve been on iOS since the 3G, but have just purchased an older pixel to start migrating apps and data to GrapheneOS. I wish Pine phone had GOS, but it is what it is.

        There is no negotiating with fascists, and Apples #1 market is the US. There is no chance in hell they will defy or deny fascism.

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          But that’s all changing the subject.

          His point was, at least Apple made a stand to begin with. Sure, they didn’t stick to their guns in the end, but if Apple left, while Android manufacturers continued advertising on Xitter this whole time, then isn’t Apple still showing more spine than the others? Does it really make sense to leave Apple for Android over this?

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          My question is less about the OS than it is the manufacturers paying to advertise on X. Buying from them is supporting X indirectly.

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            Buy used Pixel or other phone that supports open Android OS, company gets none of your $$.

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          Maybe even a refurbished one to minimize Google profits. I usually buy them second hand but still new from people who got them from their carriers for a contract extension.

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          If you buy a Pixel, you’re supporting Google which is probably worse.

          Maybe a Nothing Phone or a OnePlus?

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            Worth it for the awesome work GrapheneOS devs have done. Heck, buy used.

            Pixel is just one of the safest android phones in terms of hardware security.

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            Buy a used one then. GrapheneOS is by far the best mobile operating system. I have used Calyx and have a Lineage tablet. Neither of them compare to how well GrapheneOS works in and of itself as well as with sandboxed Play services

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            PinePhone any good? Sounds like it’s still a bit of a hobbyist device but if it can do the basics of texting and calling that’s all I need.

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      For other potentially worse manufacturers. I hate how far it’s all gone, but even buying a used/secondhand device is empowering the prior own to support one of these manufacturers.

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      At least the mask is off. Apple, Google, Meta. None of them care about anything but profit and there isn’t a value they aren’t willing to compromise on if it makes the line go up.

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          I wanted to point out that it’s as futile as shouting at the sun for rising again and shiting into your eyes through the window and then I realised how often I do exactly that and now I’m 100% fine with your comment.

          Edit: I meant to write “shining” but what’s done is done.

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    All in bed together. Didn’t they both attend Mar A Lago? No way they’re going to separate.