• nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    donald trump has single handedly shifted the global hegemony away from the united states, in only a matter of weeks.

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      That’s far too much credit for a doofus, there’s a whole evil team involved. Still, the speedrun record is impressive.

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        Yeah we can’t let all the Lindsey Grahams and Mitch McConnells off the hook. The GOP could have stopped this many times and now they’re all being complicit out of fear of losing office

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    Might be a loner thought but I’d love see China backing Ukraine Imagine how much damage they could unleash on Russia.

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      They will be helping transfer ownership of Ukraine to Russia in exchange for their help dealing with the US

      The Ukrainians only have NATO now to help

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    Despite the obvious hypocrisy with Taiwan and Hong Kong, he does benefit from supporting Ukraine since it ensures further destabilization of Russia.

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      Remember the Musk briefing on Friday. The USA are preparing a war against China. China will do everything to stabilize Russia.

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        You don’t think these plans are being drawn up at the request of Putin because chinas getting handsy with Siberia?

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          No. Putin cannot have that influence or Trump wouldn’t have come so far. Russia and China have recently settled those border issues because they are on the same side.

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          Because Putin doesn’t have the influence that the media suggests. Trump doesn’t bother to correct the left since it keeps them distracted from project 2025. Greenland and Canada wouldn’t matter if Russia were an ally.

          Instead the war is continuing as before which could lead to the end of the Russian regime. China must prefer NATO troops on the Dnieper over NATO troops on the Amur.

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            Greenland and Canada aren’t about countering a Russian military threat. Both are NATO members with US bases in them. The Russian threat to the US was much larger during the cold war and yet the US didn’t annex them back then. This is about force projection in the arctic. Control of both the NW passage and the Panama canal would increase US leverage on the world stage, including on their so-called allies. Local resources are most likely of interst as well. Even then, I suspect that a large portion is just rhetoric to stoke up visions of grandeur and might among his supporters, since that would track pretty closely with how fascist regiemes have operated in the past.

            I admit that “current de facto US ally #1” might be a bit strongly put, but it’s not like the bar would be too high at this point. They do get along well enough. Putin isn’t dumb enough to antagonize the US president who is more useful than any of his predesecors in a long time.

            A NATO occupation of Russia, be that through overt means or a friendly coup, would still be incredibly expensive and thus politically unpopular across the board. Also Trump is all about pretending to be the peacemaker when it comes to Ukraine and Russia, so this would never go forward barring a major restructuring of NATO where the US is booted out or at least knocked down a peg from their current hegemonic position. Both seem unlikely to say the least.

            The way I see it, China is just trying to position itself as a force for reason and making the most out of recent US shortcomings in soft power projection by exercising its own to fill that vacum.

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              so this would never go forward barring a major restructuring of NATO w

              You believe that NATO without the USA would fight a war against Russia?

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                No I do not believe that. I was talking about NATO troops in Russia, which could in theory also happen through a coup and a new government more alligned with the west. Even then I find it hard to believe that there would be “NATO troops on the Amur” as you put it.

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      Doesn’t sound like the purpose is to please Russia. Especially this part:

      China is assessing the possibility of participating in peacekeeping forces in Ukraine, asking the EU whether its European partners support such an initiative.

      Asking the EU if it would support them participating in a peacekeeping mission which Russia has been very critical of kinda seems more like they’re trying to improve relations with Europe in the wake of strong anti-US sentiments.

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    If they are, it’s just for milking their intelligence and giving that info to Russia. Don’t trust the CCP.

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      I’m not really surprised. They’re the only nation really equipped to step into the power vacuum America is leaving behind and I’m sure it isn’t lost in Xi the kind of stability and influence that gave America over the years.

      The only question (and frankly the one they’re asking here) is will what’s left of the free world accept them even though they’re not really a free nation.

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        The bigger question rather than letting them step into that spot is whether it means we’ll let them take Taiwan and other contested islands in the Pacific without a struggle. I think they’ll be allowed because there isn’t another option while Republicans remain in power in the US.

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          That’s kinda my point though. I could see them giving up on Taiwan at least temporarily if they’re able to fill the power void left by the USA instead. China has been pushing to become a service economy instead of a manufacturing economy for a while now, but the rest of the world didn’t trust them enough for it to work. This would change that equation.

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          I wouldn’t be surprised if everybody just “suddenly remembered” that we never recognized it as a separate country in the first place.

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      They will be able to peace keep resources Ukraine has and Europe needs.

      Just like Merrica peace kept oil in the Middle East. France was also peace keeping materials for their nuclear reactors in Africa. Untill Not Wagner showed up and backed up we are tired of frenchy bs group.

      Is it still weird?

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    Maybe if the US is kicking Ukraine out of its sphere of influence, China thinks they can get it into theirs? I wonder how that’d effect their relationship with Russia, since they’ve been benefiting from cheap oil.

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    Yes! This is amazing! The EU should consider china as its ally, the US has proven to be unreliable and untrustworthy. The people arguing that china is authoritarian and hence shouldn’t be trusted should just look at the us which is currently run by nazis.

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      China is not our allie. They are enemies of our values like freedom exactly as the Americans are.

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      The enemy of my enemy is not my friend

      China is a dictatorship and joining them as an ally is really not smart

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      Are you a tankie? China is a xenophobic fascist state. It’s what the GOP wants the US to become.

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    This card I didn’t expect. Wasn’t there some chinese soldiers on the russian side?