• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I approve of any leftist as long as they are anti-authoritarian.

    so that it appears leftists are always fighting since they are all lumped into the same category.

    I always say it is because the left in general has its roots in old school liberal value of “think for yourself”. So there typically tends to be maverick attitude and in-fighting. The best example is the Spanish Republicans during the Spanish Civil War; you have soc dems, communists and anarchists fighting together not just against fascists, but also themselves. The right, meanwhile value order and hierarchy, so they tend to easily set aside their differences. Again, the Spanish Civil War is the best example, with the Spanish Nationalists also composed of various factions with competing agenda, but managed to set aside their differences, which made it easier to do because they had a strong man figure to rally to.

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        22 hours ago

        And the right won that war

        I assume you are from the US. It may be the case in your country, but it is not necessarily that the right as a whole won the war, considering that other parts of the world still have leftist and liberal politicians ruling. As a matter of fact, they have gotten more popular as Trump’s brazen corruption and incompetence is setting example why not to elect populist right wing politicians.

        For what it’s worth, if nothing existentially happens that would stop US from becoming a nation anymore like a civil war, politics typically swing back like a pendulum. Even at the extreme, politics could dramatically swing back to normalcy and empathy. We have had countries that were under dictatorship, but are now democratic like Spain and Portugal. Because the problem with dictatorships is that they become too corrupt and reality eventually catches up to those who were swooned by initial sweet promises of demagoguery.

        Of course, what I just said now may not be reassuring to you because I am speaking from a place of relative safety, so you can take it or leave it.

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          I am American, but I was more making a point about how the rights tendency to fall in line makes them more effective, and maybe we should emulate that

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        1 day ago

        Yeah sometimes I get frustrated because I wish “the left” could be adults for five minutes and deal with the issues at hand. Like I don’t care about the socialist alphabet soup if you’re from PSL, or DSA, or ISA or whatever, we all agree that people are being kidnapped by I.C.E. is evil and alarming, can we just deal with this right now? We can get back to bickering about philosophy later.

        But even that is complicated since there are disagreements that can’t be ignored, like whether to work with democrats, who time and time again undermine and cripple movements whenever able and divert them for fundraising.