• va11kyrie@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    Sovereignty is a huge issue here - handing control of critical infrastructure to a US oligarch is just begging to be coerced and exploited.

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      12 days ago

      Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right? Just making sure I’m tracking - these are also hated here? Things that rich people own manufacturing of? What about cars? They’re pretty much govt spyware now too. Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.

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        11 days ago

        Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right

        YES

        What about cars?

        /c/fuckcars

        Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.

        A lot

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        12 days ago

        Unironically, yes. I don’t know if you’re trying to make that scenario sound ridiculous, but I can assure you that it very much is not. At least outside of the US.

        It’s not everyone at the moment, but the IT people who are paying attention are freaking the fuck out. I legitimately think Microsoft, AWS, and GCP will lose substantial market share overseas in the next 24 months.

        Consider that much of the rest of the world has started trusting China more than the US. Now think about the US CLOUD Act. What person in their right mind is going to feel comfortable hosting their company’s most sensitive data within jurisdictional reach of whatever the fuck is going on over there?

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          12 days ago

          I am inside the United States and those corporations are all cancer and need to be cut out before they further spread.

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          12 days ago

          Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.

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            11 days ago

            did you ever wonder how we got steered into a situation where we’re forced to use windows, and cars, and starlink?

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        11 days ago

        Yep people here hate windows. We hate cars, for reasons aside from spying as well they just generally suck.

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            9 days ago

            People who don’t have alternatives, yeah. Your thinking is too individualistic. You may agree on basic aversions, but the individualism is why you are getting downvotes

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            11 days ago

            People still drive but only because we have no choice most of the time. In a lot of places particularly the US and Australia it’s impossible to participate in society without owning a car or people thinking there is something wrong with you.

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              10 days ago

              I did it for years in the city but can’t anymore.

              So yeah, anyhow, that’s my point.

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                9 days ago

                What’s your point? People have to do things they hate? Why not develop that thought further? WHY do we have to, and is a world where we have to less often (or not at all) possible?

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                  9 days ago

                  I feel the endless search for avoiding things I hate is a bit of a utopian dream. I try to be a bit more realistic and tolerant I suppose. Understood that you don’t tho.