Who came up with this stupid idea?! Just seize the car.
You can’t take people’s cars away or they will have no way to make money and live in America
Just the truth sorry
And speed is highly correlated to the lethality of car wrecks. Also, it sounds like the devices would be installed in the cars of people who… speed frequently.
So, it is directly addressing the problem without asset seizure or jail time. Sounds like an ideal solution, actually.
Revoking drivers licenses would probably be more appropriate than seizing vehicles. The upside to that is revoking licenses, I’d wager, is a whole lot cheaper than installing and monitoring speed trackers.
So long as the person with the speeding problem is paying for that I guess it’s acceptable. But then we have yet another example of people without much money getting a raw deal. Means testing? Everything gets complicated when it gets to the implementation details.
Both options are potentially bad for low-income earners. If you force them to pay for a speed limiter they lost the money for that, which they might not able to afford. If you take away their license they will have difficulty getting around and might lose their job.
So from that perspective the speed limiter might be the less dangerous choice.
Could always live in a city. Rural areas (I include american type suburbs here too) are for fat and dumb people.
All cities have fantastic public transit at all times, this is known. /s
Also what’s with the rural hate outta nowhere?
Especially in New York City! How would you ever get anywhere on time without a car in New York City?!
Because ticketing is a revenue stream.
What, you thought police ticket people to… protect the general public?
This will be another revenue stream, where the serial speeders have to pay for the install of the device, and likely an ongoing monthly fee for its continued operation.
I knew someone who ran a similar program for DUIs.
It probably wouldn’t be a revenue stream for the government.
A private company would buy the equipment and charge the government AND the speeder for the costs, maintenance and monitoring.
Usually when there is a big push for these kinds of enforcement systems, the person pushing for it already has a friend of family member who just happens to do exactly that.
This scheme would reduce ticket revenue, though. And if criminal scofflaws have to pay, good, fuck 'em. The New York taxpayers shouldn’t take on the burden. The scumbags could avoid the cost trivially.
But it would be offset by the massive and recurring income from installing and maintaining the devices by a third party.
Let’s see who the companies providing these services are owned by.
Like when ticket cameras in vans became a thing 25 years ago: 80% of the “ticket” went to the camera van company. I say “ticket” because in many US jurisdictions only a police officer can issue a ticket, so these were unenforceable as tickets.
States had to update their laws to add “civil fees” as a thing just for such cameras.
Oh, my heavens, a THIRD PARTY! /s
Yes, these devices cost money to produce, install, and operate. Don’t want to pay for one? Stop breaking the law.
How is the device going to detect what the speed limit is to be able to limit it? A speed limit isn’t the same everywhere.
GPS Data. Most dedicated navigation systems have the speed limit data in their maps for the last decade or so. They’re probably also going to add the Road sign information systems that newer cars have.
Because a seized car does not generate speeding ticket fines.
And a car that cannot speed can? You might not have thought that one through.
Its a speed limiting device, unless its gps tracking tech it will just have a maximum of 60-80 mph. So you can still speed in a 50 or 30 zone.
The article states that the “Intelligent Speed Assistance devices” are supposed to prevent drivers from driving more than 5 mph over the speed limit. So I’m fairly certain GPS and/or Road Sign Information systems will be used.
That’s big-brothery. Like OP said just take away their license and make the penalties for driving without a license so astronomical that the problem will fix itself?
USA is so dystopian that not having a car can very easily fuck your life up. Tbh the big brother solution is still a better idea than cutting off a person (or even a household) from transportation to jobs/groceries/healthcare.
The only answer I can come up with is, if you take their license than they just drive with no license.
That’s a very serious crime though. If you get pulled over without a license, it’s a several thousand dollar fine.
Some places don’t enforce this very well.
And the rich will just pay it and continue, it’s the poors that will suffer. But yeah it would be their fault because this would only be used after a number of offences that they could have just slowed down.
You can’t pay to not lose your license, that’s not how it works at all.
You should go sit in criminal court for a day.
The reality is many jurisdictions just don’t enforce such things very well - there are many cases around the country of people getting their 3rd, 4th, 5th DUI and not losing their license or worse as the law is defined.
And those are often as not, not “rich people”.
Frankly judges see so much worse crime in their courts constantly that I think they’re hesistant to jail someone who is a mostly functional member of society compared to 90% of everyone else coming through their court.
Then there’s also the plea-bargaining process: prosecuting attorneys are directed to plea-bargain pretty much all cases to expedite the case load - courts are largely overwhelmed. I’ve seen guys in chains accused of multiple violent assault felonies (like assaulted multiple people in one go) plea bargain down to a fucking misdemeanor.
Again, go sit in criminal court for a day and you’ll see what I mean - it’s eye opening.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while. Criminal court is for poor people. Rich people don’t go to court for traffic tickets. They hire a lawyer who’s the son in law of a judge and work out a fine and never see the inside of a court room. How naive are you?
Cool so how are they supposed to ever get a job a home and live?
Should we just jail them for life to make it simple?
how are they supposed to ever get a job
By respecting the speed limits? Wow, my idea is so novel, disruptive, and revolutionary!
So if they don’t respect speed limits they should be effectively exiled from society into poverty or jail?
Tell me you are a child incapable of governance without telling me
Take the bus moron. You can read on the bus.
You must not live in America if you think most people have access to a bus
Have you never been to New York City where this story takes place?
Wow! What a slamn
Tell me you’re an embryo incapable of understanding consequences, etc.
Zing!
Give them the guillotine like the people breaking laws you agree with!
Is this even that big of a problem?
If so, take away their license and plates. Bus pass or bike from now on.
bus pass… in suburban NY… boy i have news for you.
Completely agree. I live in central NY and public transit is so gutted it’s basically nonexistent. I think there’s a way to increase demand though…
