College degrees demonstrate you can complete a long-term project with disparate, often competing priorities handed down from separate departments while meeting deadlines and milestones.
10 years ago I had a senior director at a large fortune 50 corporation tell me that because of the dire state of US education, the only way to ensure a candidate could read, write, and do basic math was if they went to college. As someone who now does lots of corporate hiring, it’s only gotten worse. It’s especially bad in technical fields where about half the CS grads I interview can’t even answer basic questions like “What’s an IDE?”
These days, being a janitor might be the safer bet. But yeah, we’re finally at the point where a CS grad could have done their entire degree with ChatGPT.
An ide is obviously an “intentional dog emoji”. You see someone showing their cat pictures and you tell them this is a dog environment.
BTW yes I know it’s an integrated development environment which means basically a text editor, compiler, linker, debugger and in many cases linter. I’m also unemployed and looking for a job so…
If people were obviously lying about their knowledge and abilities, I’d see how far they are willing to push it. “So how much experience do you have with python 4?“or” please write on this board how to do the well known programming problem fizz buzz, in sql”
Depending on your office building, “please demonstrate how you would handle the sliding window problem?” let them write for a few minutes. When they are done tell them “incorrect” and then walk over and open the window in your office.
Don’t actually do any of these. They would make you a huge asshole but it would be funny.
Yup, you often get very little real world experience in your field from them. I got my bachelor’s degree in information technology and all I really learned that was relevant to my career was a few new Linux commands.
My associates degree in computer information systems gave me way more usable skills than my bachelor’s. At least there the textbooks for the IT classes were official certification books.
I have a bs in mathematics and I had never even heard of SQL until after I’d graduated and started seeing it as a requirement for every job that a person with a bs in mathematics might apply for
College degrees demonstrate you can complete a long-term project with disparate, often competing priorities handed down from separate departments while meeting deadlines and milestones.
I quit college to start my own successful outsourced IT business but HR doesn’t give a shit.
10 years ago I had a senior director at a large fortune 50 corporation tell me that because of the dire state of US education, the only way to ensure a candidate could read, write, and do basic math was if they went to college. As someone who now does lots of corporate hiring, it’s only gotten worse. It’s especially bad in technical fields where about half the CS grads I interview can’t even answer basic questions like “What’s an IDE?”
Oh my God, I’m a CS Dropout who now works as a janitor yet I’m more qualified than half the people applying for your job.
These days, being a janitor might be the safer bet. But yeah, we’re finally at the point where a CS grad could have done their entire degree with ChatGPT.
An ide is obviously an “intentional dog emoji”. You see someone showing their cat pictures and you tell them this is a dog environment.
BTW yes I know it’s an integrated development environment which means basically a text editor, compiler, linker, debugger and in many cases linter. I’m also unemployed and looking for a job so…
You’d at least get points for being funny.
If people were obviously lying about their knowledge and abilities, I’d see how far they are willing to push it. “So how much experience do you have with python 4?“or” please write on this board how to do the well known programming problem fizz buzz, in sql”
Depending on your office building, “please demonstrate how you would handle the sliding window problem?” let them write for a few minutes. When they are done tell them “incorrect” and then walk over and open the window in your office.
Don’t actually do any of these. They would make you a huge asshole but it would be funny.
I’d say the majority of the population can do that, mostly it’s a class filter. Need money to go to school or massive debt.
Yup, you often get very little real world experience in your field from them. I got my bachelor’s degree in information technology and all I really learned that was relevant to my career was a few new Linux commands.
My associates degree in computer information systems gave me way more usable skills than my bachelor’s. At least there the textbooks for the IT classes were official certification books.
I have a bs in mathematics and I had never even heard of SQL until after I’d graduated and started seeing it as a requirement for every job that a person with a bs in mathematics might apply for