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    11 months ago

    I’m in Canada, when I order pizza for my family of 3 it comes out to like $65+ with tax and delivery, it’s insane. Took them to burger king the other day, we got 3 meals and a couple of apple turnovers and it came out to $50+, shit is insane.

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        Nah man, sit downs have doubled in price too. I took them to a sit down place a few months back and it came out to like $150

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              Tax is always included in the EU, so if you see a € price it’s with tax

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              Any waiter that had a $100 table, and only got one dollar as a tip, would definitely spit in your food the next time you showed up.

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                  $1.18 wouldn’t be 18%. The math is pretty simple here, 18% of $100 would be $18. I’d just give the driver a $20.

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        I generally order only when I can’t. Like when the day has been a hectic disaster, it’s 20 minutes from dinner, I haven’t had a chance to go to the store or cook, and the kids gotta eat. If it was just me alone I’d survive in crackers

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          I genuinely wish I was well off enough to have a “fuck it, it’s only $65” attitude lol.

          We meal prep/etc because, if we don’t, we’ll starve.

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          You’re not going to want to hear this, but to survive going forward and not be constantly ordering take out or fast food, we all have to do better in planning ahead. The world is full of poverty traps, and keeping people too busy to cook for themselves is part of the plan. Batch meals, soups, leftovers.

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        Yeah. During the pandemic I realized fuck eating out. Why is the main public activity going to a fucking restaurant anyway? We need more museums. Like, lots more.

        I will say tho, fast food salads (pick up not delivery) are worth it. I bought a $25 salad from a deli chain & said this is too expensive. So next week I spent $20 on salad ingredients & made a salad. I didn’t feel like a salad for a couple days & all ingredients wilted.

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      You gotta order online and use their apps and newsletters it can cut the price by half if not more. They are making their prices punitive for not using their apps now. Domino’s should be about $8 a pizza.

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      Did a fast casual place last week with 3 other adults. 65 dollars for 4 burgers, 3 drinks, and 2 small fries. Of course they asked me for a tip.

      I really try to avoid restaurants. Every time I go I end up angry.

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      What’s that 20$ per pizza. 3 pizzas? That’s pricy pizza. Is it good pizza at least?

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          Maaan!! That’s crazy prices! Have you ever tried buying a frozen marg pizza and putting ur own toppings on. That’s what I do and it usually costs way less with minimal effort.

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    We (loc: krautland) totally stopped ordering take-out. It gets less and less, worse and worse, cheaper and cheaper, but also more and more expensive. It’s not worth it anymore. At all.

    We may be just some cheap fucks (as many still do, even those with way less moneyz), but takeout is no viable alternative to cooking anymore.

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      The Chinese food place near me still sells lunch specials for <10$. It’s the only place I order out from anymore and it will probably close soon.

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        Yeah, we have one like that (just classic german) here too. The last fighting survivor…

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      Gustavo Gusto frozen pizza is better than at least 80% of delivery pizza anyway, so I just stock those.

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    I saw Home Alone on TV during Christmas and the cheese pizza Kevin orders from Little Nero’s was $12 or $13. I’m impressed and grateful that I can still get a pizza for that price sometimes like 35 years later. Cheaper if I go to Caesars and pick up

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      It’s still a better price for what you are getting, but somehow a large Little Caesars pizza is only as filling as like three or four slices from anywhere else. I can easily finish it in one sitting. But you can’t complain about $5.55 for a whole pizza. And the “Hot-N-Ready!” signs have been making me giggle for 20 years.

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    Last time I ordered pizza it came out to $30. We make it at home now. Better quality anyway, besides one of my daughters really loves cooking it with me.

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    If you are culinary challenged like myself but would like to making pizza at home, here’s some suggestions:

    Frozen grocery store cheese pizza but fancied up by adding whatever topping you are in the mood for. An “Italian seasoning” spice adds a lot of flavor.

    Instead of a traditional pizza dough opt for something simpler like French bread or pitas. Slather on sauce, cheese, toppings. This was my introduction to “cooking” when I was broke.

    Pre-made pizza crust like Boboli which is nice but ups the cost. You can also buy uncooked dough though I’ve never gone this route. I tried making my own dough back when bread machines were a thing but I could never get the hand of it.

    Robin Hood pizza flour. I’m sure there are other brands but this is what our mom would use to make pizza most weekends. Now that I’m thinking about I’ll have to pick some up

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        Yes! We use mission low carb wraps (they seem to crisp up better) and spread tomato puree on top, then season it with garlic salt and Italian herbs, add clumps of grated cheese, and then toppings.

        The trick is to preheat the oven to 400 with a cast iron in, and then spray with oil when you take it out ready to cook on (use gloves, it’ll be hot). Carefully transfer the pizza to the hot pan, return to oven, and cook for 10 mins. Depending on the toppings, and if you like it a little more top crispy, switch the oven to broil at the 8 min mark for the last two mins.

        My new obsession is a little smidge of grated brussel sprouts (don’t knock it til you try it) with an oil spritz.

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      I understand wanting to give people the tools to help themselves but it’s also important to keep in mind that this sort of logic has been used to punish the poor and victim blame for any excess pleasure expenditure.

      Poverty is a symptom of a failing system and does not fall solely on the individual to escape.

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      You are assuming the people have the time to learn, the energy, even a kitchen with enough space to do it. Now if you’re just talking about like a frozen pizza sure whatever but if you’re talking about making it from scratch that’s a lot of fucking work not everyone has that kind of time

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        Who doesn’t ever have time to cook? Making pizza from scratch is maybe 30mins of work at most. To me it Sounds like you are infantilizing poor people into a position where they are too stupid to feed themselves. I have never in my life met a single person who couldn’t just have made pizza at home.

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          Pizzas from scratch does not become 30 minutes of work until you’re well versed in it. Before that it’s a giant mess which most people who are poor and living in tiny Apartments literally just do not have the counterspace for. And a few hours of learning.

          When you are poor the vast majority of your time is generally spent trying to make what little money you can, you come home you have enough time to quickly eat something shower maybe if you’re lucky to get one hour to yourself before it’s time to sleep.

          There are lots of foods that you can do quickly and easily from scratch for yourself. Especially if you can manage to get your hands on something like an instant pot or other type of large slow cooker or pressure cooker. Things that will allow you to make seemingly complex meals with a couple button pushes and you don’t even have to be home to monitor it but pizza from scratch is just not one of them

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            For the past couple of years I’ve been on a “home cooking” stretch making as many different varieties of cuisines possible, dough is by far one of the toughest to perfect even with decades of experience in the restaurant industry . Without decent equipment costing an outrageous amount you’re going to be spending hours and multiple attempts to get a product that resembles the flavor and texture profile you’re aiming for.

            I feel like the responses I see to how “easy” home cooking is comes from the Dunning-Kruger effect. No one enjoys setting up a flour station and having to clean that shit up (especially if you’re a dough slapper, which why wouldn’t you be). A beginner cutting up and prepping the ingredients for a deluxe pizza is going to take 30 mins alone (precook sausage, 7+ different items needing to be cut, blending sauce, shredding cheese). The dough is a whole other paragraph that’s just making me tired thinking about it, but decent dough takes time.

            Top professionals know the years of hard work and learning that is needed to efficiently run a quick kitchen. There’s so much research needed, trial-and-error, and shitty recipes out there it’s beyond unnecessarily complicated without a solid template (mentor, family recipes) to follow. It becomes a second hobby (which people don’t have time for) if you want to completely replace expenses and keep the same quality from desirable restaurants. Got a shitty oven that doesn’t cook evenly? Can’t afford anything but a wooden spoon and a large plastic mixing bowl? Temperatures in your dwelling that vary rapidly effecting your meal prep? The poorer you are the more you have to micro-manage every detail when you’re already stretched so thin.

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          What does this even have to do with poverty? I work a well paying office job. Often in evenings I just don’t have the energy to cook a decent meal, between caring for my family and getting a bit of time to myself. If I lived in a big city, with their tiny little kitchens, it’d be even more frustrating.

          • Can I? Sure, it’s a simple recipe, I don’t need to be an experienced cook.
          • Can I make time? Sure, I can sacrifice some unwind time or family time.
          • Can I find the energy to motivate myself to sacrifice that time? Often not.

          I imagine it gets exponentially worse with larger families, smaller apartments, and harder/more jobs.

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      Tbf sometimes you don’t have the energy or time to cook at home. When that happens pizza is one of the cheapest options. But not freakin $36 pizza that looks marginally better than Little Ceasars.

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      Pizza is an exception in my book because I can never make it as good at home as they do in a restaurant kitchen.

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    Making your own stuff is more fun than ordering delivery and watching TV while you wait for it to get there

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      Maybe it’s where I live but most people don’t have pizza stoves or pizza ovens at home

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          A pizza oven hits 900F and space above to create a jet stream which cooks the toppings. You can get by with a regular oven but it wont be like a pizza from a pizza oven

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            I figured a regular oven wouldn’t be as good as a pizza oven, just hate to see someone “roadblock” themselves. FWIW I used to finish my pizzas by putting them under the broiler for a minute.

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        If you don’t have a cast iron pan, you should get one. A basic Lodge does the job as good as any (it’s just a hunk of iron). It’s super easy to use a cast iron pan to make pizza.

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          Likely still a conventional oven that doesn’t have the temperature or airflow that a pizza oven does.