How disappointed we will all be when all the boomers are dead and it doesn’t solve any of our problems.
We’ll just have to see, won’t we?
Plus, it’s not like the climate will just snap back into place when the boomers are finally too old for their skeleton talons to cling to power. That shit is going to take generations of sacrifice to roll back, if it doesn’t topple civilization first.
The whole ethos of the majority of baby boomers seems to have been to raze the forest they got to enjoy behind them (as opposed to planting trees whose shade they’d never sit in like most generations aspire to), and they seem to be having remarkable success in that.
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The wealthy are savvy but with the boomers gone they lose a lot of their support. Of course they will try to maintain the status quo, but the people will be affected by the material conditions and see the truth. The only thing we have to fear is hate, but MTG, Boebart and Desantis were all elected by Boomers. Young people don’t vote for those idiots. I’m more concerned about Andrew Tate.
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This isn’t new though, many boomers were the hippies at one point, they had the photocopier, fairness doctrine TV & Radio and liberal attitudes for sex, gender, and civil rights.
But the same tactics were used to stop and convert many of them, plus around half of them were the same sort of assholes that give them a bad name now.
thats the ethos you project onto boomers, not the ethos boomers live by.
The results speak for themselves. The majority of their generation’s attitudes about the results indicate satisfaction with the results.
Not true. You dont know what they think or feel
Ok boomer
The issues they left behind will last for generations. Funny that anyone could believe this goes away in our lifetime.
Or that we won’t make new problems that we get to blame on new generations. It will never end
Many of the issues they leave behind are ones that existed when they were born.
It’s not about a magic cure that’ll fix everything over night.
It’s about repairing decades of harm done by a generational mindset that valued wealth acquisition and material possession above every other facet of society. We won’t fix that trauma in one, two, or three generations but it will get better and better with time and distance to boomerism.
The values of wealth accumulation and materialism are not at all limited to or even expressed mostly strongly by the Baby Boomer generation.
The line of thinking that capitalism dies with boomers or that Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, or whatever comes next will not fully embrace capitalism and will move towards socialism or some other non-competitive society seems pretty naive.
Humans are a competitive species. Most people want to win. I doubt this mindset dies with boomers.
Humans are a co-operative species, same goes for our ape and monkey cousins.
It is this instinctual nature of working together that enabled us to take down bigger prey, settle new lands, and become the dominant species on the planet.
I don’t disagree. That said, would suggest that externally we are cooperative, but internally we are competitive. Even in ape families, there exists a hierarchy generally ruled by the biggest, strongest male.
Which brings us back to the point at hand. Will humans come together to solve climate change? Or will humans continue to try to win at all costs?
I can see either as a possibility. But I don’t see boomers dying as a catalyst.
The rich are very concerned about the fact that all statistical evidence pointing to younger generations being starkly more socially minded than boomers. Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis. Just like the Great Depression, that generally makes people realize that Capitalism is bullshit.
The wealthy are funding massive propaganda campaigns as a result. They are unfortunately making some in roads with young men. But overall I don’t think it will be enough.
Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis.
Yes, yes we have.
I’ll be very interested to see how the younger generations age. Anecdotally, I’ve witnessed numerous people go from progressive socialists, to centrist capitalists as they age. Not saying that will continue, only saying this as I’ve seen similar studies that show younger people are more progressive than older folks every 5 years for the past 3 decades. It’s not a terribly new concept, and I’m hopeful that it remains true.
I agree! A change of the mindset is generational change at best. In many cases flawed ideologies and poor educational standards are just beeing continued. Yet I want to be one of the naive and think that there will be a new way of thinking and noticeable political change. For the better or the worse…, who knows?!
The next most conservative generation is Gen X. All few dozen of us. Expect those with power to retain it with massive use of wealth to constrain the rules of democracy, rather than numbers of voters.
It will solve the problem of their voting habits. They have lead us down this insane path because they are a narcissistic generation. Things won’t be perfect, but we might, just might, start turning things around. If we still can.
They’re smart to balance their checkbooks on the way out. They never let any opportunity to consume go to waste.
I dunno, I feel like if I lived through the Black Death and I was there when—at the end of the suffering, surrounded by death—the last plague rat died, I’d take it as a win…
Because that’s how it works, right? When your house is flooded because of a burst pipe, when you replace the pipe then your house is magically unflooded right? I mean of course no reasonable person thinks that, but that seems to be the understanding you’re suggesting. Meanwhile you’re trying to say that if we do repair the pipe and the house is still flooded, rightly acknowledging that the pipe is 100% the cause of the flood is somehow… wrong?
The facts are that boomers fucked the world up, heavily, and did everything they could to hold onto power and rob the next generation (at least) of their deserved place in the driver’s seat of society, and cleaning up the messes and lessons left over by the boomers will take generations to clean up. The fact that boomer built long-term systemic problem without simple solutions does not mean that the boomers are not entirely at fault or that we aren’t entirely better off without them.
Boomer is a state of mind. They are never going extinct.
But then you have to blame the job creators!?
most boomers where lost generation per them
i said what i said
They were called the Me Generation but they got offended and changed it to Boomer
Shame the damage they did won’t go with them.
And they’re not done yet! It’s also a shame they’ll probably waste the money they’ve accumulated on the worst possible things and people on the way out (fueling the dumpster fire).
Thanks Lemmy. I just had to wiki to double-verify that Keanu Reeves is not dead.
Thank God.
WTF are Keanu Reeves and Madonna doing there 😃
Madonna - Born 1958
Keanu - Born 1964 so boomer of the cutoff year.
It’s not my countdown clock, but all the images they chose are of the baby boomer generation, chronologically.
False.
I concede the point, the argument, and my very life.
May Keanu have mercy on my soul.
I get that I just thought its supposed to be dead by boomers up there
Patience, grasshopper.
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Putting Keanu next to dead Boomers is like when Micheal Scott announced he hit Meredith and the doctors did all they could.
Why would you phrase it like that?!
Interesting to look at, numbers wise… but it makes me think of the time I have left with my parents. I’m calling them tomorrow!
now*
I find this insanely interesting. I hope someone does this for us Xers but I have a feeling that everyone will forget about us.
And with this, I’m also interested in the rate of change here. Are boomers dying faster, slower, steady rate?
https://incendar.com/generation_x_deathclock.php
They got you!
Fuck that website, it lists abortions as deaths LMAO
It would be very surprising if the rate was steady. Boomers are ages 59 to 77 today. The ones who have died have been on the younger side, but it won’t be long until most are within a standard deviation for average lifespan.
Also, there weren’t the same number of boomers born every year. In fact, 1946 had a spike of them, and the rate started falling off each of the last seven years or so of the range. So we started with more older boomers than younger boomers.
As an interesting side note: I have heard multiple times that Gen X is the Trumpiest and most conservative leaning generation, even more than Boomers or Silver. I find it plausible. The silver generation has old progressive labor movement diehards, and boomers have hippies. But Gen X never really had a progressive culture movement. They came of age during Reagan and Clinton.
The good news is, there isn’t many of us. Boomers and Millennials are the two biggest groups.
But yeah I already hear BS like, back in my days we roam the streets blah blah blah from folks my age.
I’d bet this site just uses something like a census base percentage, apredicted end date and a countdown clock that creates the percentage/rate.
Why is a Canadian actor and citizen in one of the photos for a US countdown…?
(Yes I’m referring to Keanu.)
Keanu makes everything better. Except Dracula.
Not long ago I found out that my dad is too old to be a boomer. Apparently it’s called “the silent generation”.
The real question is if your grandma, on the other side, is from the same generation as your dad. Then shit gets weird.
At this point, I’d rather like to see edgelords go extinct.
Fingers crossed!
The trend I find hilarious is when people come into these threads and start yelling at people about how wrong they are to generalize a generation, etc. Frankly, I can’t imagine why people feel the need to defend others over this, it’s weird–and I imagine that none of them complained when people complained about Millenials.
Yeah. We did. And we used the same argument. It’s stupid to generalize a generation. However, I can point out the mockery of “millennials” was lazy and juvenile as the prejudice was aimed at anyone younger than the speaker without care for the facts, and the antics by “millennials” that garnered derision were by far the minority. Whereas the boomers are by majority conservative and guilty of failing to understand modern living and the changing times. Because racism, conformity, and getting a good paying job out of high school were facts of life for most of them.
Sadly, my own parents had no understanding that the world had changed between 1975 and when I graduated in the 1990s. They really believed that everything was exactly the same and all I needed was to work really hard at a part time job for a while. In reality, it took me 20 years to get even an approximation of the middle class, but I don’t really consider myself middle class.
Took me a solid 25 to make it to middle class. Got one of those expensive degrees for an industry with “high average pay”, however they don’t tell you you’re working for peanuts until you make it. Of course, 9/11 and all the economic downturns/recessions didn’t help.
I got in during the DotCom crash of 2000 and then had to deal with 2008. Has not been fun.
I recently decided it’s unfair to judge them for how well they’re handling change, when they’ve gone through the most change in history. My parents grew up in the mud and died on the Internet.
Not really, though, the Boomers were the generation OF change. They went from giant radios that ran on vaccuum tubes to portable transistor radios and people walking on the moon, all within the period of roughly 10 years. They are the generation that saw plastics replace other products. They are one the generations to see the Internet come into being.
Boomers were primed for change from birth and only showed a distaste for it once they became middle aged.
Sorry, that’s not an argument. That’s like saying “Frank didn’t suffer from trauma because he went through tons of it already.”
Even if there’s a truth to them having practice or training, getting harder, etc., humans can still have limits.
I’m confused at your strawman about trauma when I’m just talking about the changing technology from the 1950s onward.
I don’t recall ever seeing anyone posting memes about how long before the millennials are all dead- and having everyone in the comments cheer it on.
But don’t let this get in the way of your strawman.
LOL calling that a strawman pretty much served to prove my point better than I ever could have.
Wait… Keanu Reeves if a boomer?
Most 80s/90s actors alive today would be
No. He can’t be aged correctly so he has no cohort
Just looked it up on Wikipedia. He’s not really a boomer, neither a Gen X. He’s in that transitional few years between generations. In any case, you can make a good argument that he is a baby boomer, depending on where the cutoff dates are.
The cutoff dates are in the image
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The problem isnt going to end with them. My right wing friends are completely indoctrinated by their boomer parents. And getting louder and louder about it.
They’ll be outnumbered after the boomers are gone. They’ll either have to adapt, hide back in the shadows, or go full extremist.
Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.
Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.
It’s worth the effort though. Thank you, citizen, for taking the time to do so.
One of my student in his 20s, recently told me “ok boomer”. I’m 42.
What did you say to illicit that response?
