• CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world
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    Good. I hope this is what happens.

    1. LLM algorithms can be maintained and sold to corpos to scrape their own data so they can use them for in house tools, or re-sell them to their own clients.
    2. Open Source LLMs can be made available for end users to do the same with their own data, or scrape whats available in the public domain for whatever they want so long as they don’t re-sell
    3. Altman can go fuck himself
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    7 days ago

    But I can’t pirate copyrighted materials to “train” my own real intelligence.

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    If giant megacorporations can benefit by ignoring copyright, us mortals should be able to as well.

    Until then, you have the public domain to train on. If you don’t want AI to talk like the 1920s, you shouldn’t have extended copyright and robbed society of a robust public domain.

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    TLDR: “we should be able to steal other people’s work, or we’ll go crying to daddy Trump. But DeepSeek shouldn’t be able to steal from the stuff we stole, because China and open source”

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    “We can’t succeed without breaking the law. We can’t succeed without operating unethically.”

    I’m so sick of this bullshit. They pretend to love a free market until it’s not in their favor and then they ask us to bend over backwards for them.

    Too many people think they’re superior. Which is ironic, because they’re also the ones asking for handouts and rule bending. If you were superior, you wouldn’t need all the unethical things that you’re asking for.

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    Fuck these psychos. They should pay the copyright they stole with the billions they already made. Governments should protect people, MDF

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    Training that AI is absolutely fair use.

    Selling that AI service that was trained on copyrighted material is absolutely not fair use.

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    I mean, if they are allowed to go forward then we should be allowed to freely pirate as well.

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        Yeah, you can train your own neural network on pirated content, all right, but you better not enjoy that content at the same time or have any feelings while watching it, because that’s not covered by “training”.

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      Don’t worry: the law will be very carefully crafted so that it will be legal only if they do it, not us.

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    This is basically a veiled admission that OpenAI are falling behind in the very arms race they started. Good, fuck Altman. We need less ultra-corpo tech bro bullshit in prevailing technology.

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    At the end of the day the fact that openai lost their collective shit when a Chinese company used their data and model to make their own more efficient model is all the proof I need they don’t care about being fair or equitable when they get mad at people doing the exact thing they did and would aggressively oppose others using their own work to advance their own.

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    If I had to pay tuition for education (buying text books, pay for classes and stuff), then you have to pay me to train your stupid AI using my materials.