• Slatlun@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    For anyone wondering these are, legally speaking, ebikes. As in they squeezed a delivery truck into the legal definition for a bike to be able to use bike lanes.

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      Well then we need to change the definition of ebikes. Either that or we only allow private personal vehicles to use the bike lane.

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        10 hours ago

        In the Netherlands, delivery vehicles use bike lanes all the time, however, these are made by local manufacturers that aren’t as big as this

        For Example

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        That would mean a bike courier / delivery driver on an actually real bike would not be allowed anymore

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        There should be a common sense rule to laws. Like, sometimes you look at sobering and it’s obviously not right

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      Wtf for real?! Thats fucking wild

      Edit: So does that mean they can legally park in all the bike lanes? Is the bike lane even usable by bicycles any more, or has it just turned into Amazon’s exclusive shipping lane?

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          Beats the fuck outta me, but I wouldn’t have thought those delivery vehicles would have been “bikes” either, fucko

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            In Europe these ‘cargo bikes’ are being accepted quite well. I don’t mind them. They’re slow, low carbon footprint, child safe… So why not? They do take up a lot of space but that’s because the cycle path is too narrow. More cyclepaths so cargo can be delivered by bike. That’s what we need.

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              So this asshole is dickish with his reply, but I call them a fucko and I’m the asshole, alright. ANYWAY. I wasn’t saying shit about having more bikes. How is this not obviously a huge win for amazon, tiny cars or not. You think this was the intent behind the bike lane laws? Abso-fuckin-lutely not.

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        22 hours ago

        The bike lane is usable. I mean, for about a half-a-block at a time, cause of the parked cars.

        I wish NYC would allow citizens to take a video of a car parked in the bike lane for more than a minute, issue a ticket, and make it profitable for the ticket issuer. All of the problems would go away overnight.

        And actually, I wish we could take videos of cars going through red lights. Or, LOL, illegal u-turns. “Go around the block” is not a thing anymore. Everyone just turns around wherever the fuck they are.

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        20 hours ago

        They want to use the bike lane so they don’t have to follow traffic laws.

        Bike infrastructure is good, capitalism still bad.

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          I don’t disagree with you at all.

          just wondering if a big chunk of NY delivery/cargo vehicles were electric cargo bikes like that, would it be an improvement? (given that will force turning car lanes into bike lanes).

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            19 hours ago

            Theoretically it would be less asthma for children that’s really not nothing.

            But the batteries for those ebikes almost certainly come from children in mines.

            It all ends up as borrowing from tom to pay peter back when amazon is involved.

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              What about the batteries in the phone you are using? Or the gasoline that’s manufactured using cobalt-based catalysts? Do you care about the children in mines that extracted those?

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              Ebikes take much less resources than cars. Complaining about reducing the resources and energy needed for transportation is disingenuous.

              You cannot pull a “no ethical consumption under capitalism” to protect the current status quo.

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                Not abusing a sentience in another country so you can have your funco pops at home is also not nothing.

                I’d like amazon logistics to be broken up and owned by the communities it inhabitants. But I’d also like that to happen to GM and Ford too. If you catch my drift.

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                  100%

                  but logistics wise, small electric vehicles, small enough to be considered ebikes is preferable to current car/van/truck fleets. as they have a greater human cost as well.

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    If they’re moving along the bike lanes the way cyclists use them I don’t have big beef here.

    If they’re then PARKING in the bike lanes to go make their deliveries, we have a problem. One that can be solved pretty easily considering these aren’t cars and are very light. Very easy to tip. Especially when they’re just sitting there abandoned in a flat bike lane.

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    Yeah, I just hope NYC is taxing the fuck out of those quadra-cycle-boxes. I know we aren’t, but come on- Amazon trucks routinely park all day near my apt, blocking the bike lane and half of the road. Tax them, tax them, tax them.

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      Yep. WTF the bike lane just ends and cars are signaled into moving there?

      It is probably safer than just making cars cross the lane, but there’s some transition missing there.

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    ebikes are vehicles in the same way that motorcycles are as in they are not exclusively human powered. They belong in the normal lanes with the other non human powered vehicles. It’s dangerous to riders in the bike lane legally when ebikes and other vehicles are whipping around because they want to skip the line. According to NYC law you are only allowed 750 watts max and 15mph limit to use the bike lane. They really need to revisit that because these are not safe to others in the lane.