Exactly.

I canceled my sub when I got the email. I’m going to pirate anything I want to see from them from now on.

Yeah we cancelled last month

Yeah, you’re spot on with every point there. I’ve cancelled my auto renew, as we do use the other benefits of the prime account, but we can and will be using other services from the end of our current subscription.

Is there a guide for dummies you’d recommend. PVR and etc are unknown terms for me. I used to torrent under vpn but that was in the Limewire days… hoping for some help in the safest ways to return to the seas.

How does a VPN give you access to shows on Amazon that require Prime? Or do you mean it’ll just give you access to more shows than you’d have otherwise?

For maximum impact:

• Avoid Amazon like the plague.

I’ve been doing it for years and don’t regret it on bit in light of the regular sleazy behaviours of Amazon coming to light (their removing of ebooks that people bought from their Fire Tables alone is the reason why I never bought any digital media from them except for a single music track in MP3 format a decade or so ago).

Yo ho ho, shiver me timbers, what a crew the Jolly Roger is getting

Edit: ignore this. They actually do offer an adfree sub

But Amazon is not doing this. They show ads on the one subscription they have, that they already recently have raised the price for. This is higher price for lower quality and no option to upgrade or downgrade. They leave you the option to stay or leave

I hope they reply 😆

Exactly what I did too! Sadly, most Americans would gladly continue paying for their lessened experience. When faced with potentially losing a tiny bit of content, most Americans will gladly pull down their pants.

that’s until people learn about movie-web.app

The thing is I don’t think a majority of people pay for Prime for Prime Video. I obviously have no statistics for this, but I think Video is just a “bonus” on top of the shipping. I don’t know anyone who uses Prime Video as their main source of streaming.

Frankly the no more password sharing thing was kinda justifiable. Fair is fair, actively making the service worse and telling you that it’s for the bettering of the service when it’s clearly not on the other hand…

Well, the total user base here is in the tens of thousands, even assuming there was even 100% agreement on that, that still amounts to less Netflix subscribers cancelling than they have in a single small town in the us.

I think people here (and reddit and other social media) forget that most people just kind of do their thing and don’t make posts online about this stuff.

They actually lost subscribers in major markets. The added subscribers were in developing markets and had nothing to do with the changes in plan costs — developing market prices are comparatively dirt cheap.

But Netflix PR was good at spinning this as a win.

My parents and mil still use our Netflix, once they start charging extra I will cancel. To be fair I would’ve cancelled years ago, they are the only reason I keep the service.

Yeah, but most people weren’t sharing their password anyway.

Ads make everyone’s experience worse.

being unethical is profitable, my good sir.

Unethical to you, but profitable to them.

I’ve worked in Investment Banking for a decade or so some years ago and everything there is calculated and risk-priced with zero moral or ethical considerations (even “Regulatory Risk” or, in other words, “If the risk-adjusted profitabily exceeds other options we will break the Law”).

Funnilly enough I was in the Tech Startup World after than and nowadays (back in the 90s it wasn’t like this) it’s pretty much The Even Wilder Wild West Of Finance - or in other word, riddled with shit from the most speculative end of Finance, only with pretty much zero regulatory oversight so, naturally, riddled with near- and actual-Fraud.

All this to say that somebody in Amazon made the maths using their customer behaviour profiles to calculate the risk of the only negative response possible (people actually cancelling, the other two being the slight positive one of “people stay as they are and watch ads” and the more positive one of “people pay the extra for ad free”) times lost income versus the upsides and determined Amazon’s profit will increase.

Notice how in order to reduce the possibility of people taking the option that’s negative for them, they renew and after it do a one-sided change the terms of the contract, which Nudge Theory tells will yield the maximum number of people just accepting it (so they’ll be in the “stay and watch ads” rather than “cancelling” group), something which for them even has no negatives (people will either still cancel, which is neutral versus telling it to people upfront and they cancelling, or they’ll stick around and take it which is positive for Amazon) hence was a pretty obvious choice for an unethical company.

So, I applaud you for actually activelly going through the gauntlet they put in front of you and cancelling, though I suspect you’re part of a tiny minority.

I suggest spreading the “renewal and then change of contract terms” story is the best way to punish them for their actions, especially emphasising that they’re knowingly pressuring people to stay with highly sleazy screw-the-customer legally dubious techniques.

(Though not with a wall of text like I did ;), so thank you kind reader for getting this far!)

I would say that the thing that can really screw Amazon over the mid and long-term is losing customer trust.

same, this was the last straw for me.

Dito, hopefully Invincible S2 finishes before it lapses. If not [puts on fancy tricorn]

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I swear, every time someone says something like that Orinoco Flow by Enya starts playing in my head

They’ve had very little worth watching, tbh. I’d rather steal better shows instead.

Piracy is the way! Everything for free!

Not a shill or anything, but isn’t Prime Video thrown in for free? Here in Australia, we pay for Prime to get free next day shipping, and Prime Video is a free inclusion.

Although I guess, now, it’s kinda all advertised as a group of services for the subscription fees, so I’m probably answering my own question here.

I’ll go have another coffee and wake up properly…

Edit: just checked - Prime Video is definitely listed as a membership benefit along with the shipping, so they’re absolutely moving the goal posts mid-game, especially for annual subscribers. Dick move, Amazon.

But… If they don’t do that how will they invest in future programming?? Don’t you understand how little fucking money Amazon makes??

Gonna add an unsolicited recommendation here. One of the main things I held onto Amazon for was wishlisting for holidays. I’ve since migrated to giftopedia and I like it, so if you are me, give that a try.

Yarrr

We are like-minded!