Well when the red hats are fighting for the oligarchs it’s not quite the same is it
Many that fight for civic rights, also fight the class war, protesting for both
Civil rights are actually a good platform to spread social awareness
this meme is dumb and short-sighted and the commenters are right.
it isnt a culture war conservatives are inciting, it is a war on civil rights.
In much of the public’s eye, it is a culture war. That’s what determined their vote and support.
The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires.
Always has been.
The public gets things wrong, that’s why it’s important to set the record straight rather than serve up pablum.
“The whole point of eroding civil rights is to help billionaires…”
claiming an absolute regarding complex and differentiated issues is how you know something is pablum.
The long-term conservative judicial and legislative campaign the meme incorrectly refers to has a lot to do with race and religion, for example.
“Always has been”.
this is just a line from a short-sighted meme that is often incorrectly used, including here by you. it’s a fun phrase that means nothing, it’s confetti stuck in your sock.
Much of the public also voted for trump. I’m not so sure we should be thinking very highly of much of the public’s eye.
The American public voted for Trump, but the whole trans rights argument is a more of a world issue.
Here’s the problem: the one with the purple hair wants civil rights and safety, and the one with the red hat wants to punch the one with the purple hair repeatedly. Can’t really compromise like that. Need to fight red hat and billionaire at the same time, which is bullshit.
Also, the one with the red hat is probably fine with the billionaires.
Certainly, he’s just one good idea away from being one himself!
I always thought this meme was directed at right wing working class people because the left is already fighting the class war while also defending civil rights against “culture warriors”
Ok but that’s a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren’t evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.
You need to construct a vision of society that allows both to succeed. Everyone is struggling these days and you need to construct a society that values all people.
Ok but that’s a reductive view of human beings. Average MAGA folks are uneducated and propagandized, but they aren’t evil and viewing them as such feeds into the culture war.
wow, I guess you should tell them to stop being dicks instead of coming to leftwing spaces and telling us to hug the bullies.
Lol I’m a leftist. If you want to be productive, you can’t push everyone out. You have to find common ground. Our society is breaking. Communism has plenty to offer most MAGA people. They just need to see it.
Lol I’m a leftist. If you want to be productive, you can’t push everyone out.
I’m not pushing anyone out; I’m pushing OP (and you) to proselytize to the right wing and MAGA people.
I’m trying. They are so close. Their whole brains are full of conspiracies of elites trying to destroy Western Civilization and they are so so close to class consciousness.
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The only way out of this is to vote blue no matter who, but a lot of so-called communists would refuse the call, and that’s why we’re losing. We’re not only divided by left and right, the left itself is being intentionally splintered by bad actors. The left needs to come together, play politics, remove Republicans from office, and only then will real impactful progressive reform be possible.
That’s not what they’re saying at all. Go look into some of MLKs teachings. Kindness and being gentle, in duality with an aggressive force like Malcom X was at the time, is how we win this fight.
There are those of us fighting the peaceful fight and those of us fighting the violent fight (Thank you Adjuster).
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Why do you think they became bullies?
I don’t care.
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they aren’t evil
I don’t think they are all evil, but they seem to vote for the evil politicians and evil policies that direct hate at the people they don’t understand. Every single time…
Some are dumb, some are evil. Some are both, but none are neither.
It is impossible for me to both have rights(one sides goal), and not have rights(the other sides goal)
The point isn’t to cede ground and compromise with them. The point is to try to show them that they’ve been duped about who their enemies are. It might still take some time to deprogram them, but if we could at least get them to put that all on hold and focus on the class issue, maybe we can actually get somewhere instead of spinning in circles.
I completely agree, what I was responding to was the person who said “we have to construct a vision of society that allows both succeed”
There’s also a good chance that one or both is a troll online.
They’ve been doing it since reconstruction. I read the opinion once that labor never got true power in America because they kept excluding blacks for a long time. I think about that a lot. Hating a black guy was more important to many labor movements than class solidarity.
This is why labor unions really started to fail in the 60s and 70s. The union guys valued race far more than class and the powers of unions diminished.
They have been doing it well before reconstruction. Once upon a time there wasn’t that much racism in the US, but after Bacon’s rebellion the elites realized that whites and blacks were working together and have since then been pitting them against one another.
They also purged all the communists as a show of good faith to the government (which, uh, didn’t work). Those communists were likely more prone to class solidarity as an ideological commitment and also more willing to fight with radical actions like strikes, but instead we were left with opportunistic leadership that just wanted to secure the bag for themselves, and at best the other members of the union, but had no interest in any building any kind of broad coalition or promoting equality on a societal level - that would make them sound like a Red.
It’s not a culture war if they make policy based on it. Can’t really be shouting from the fence at the migrants being detained, put in camps and deported or the women being denied abortions or the trans people being arrested for having to pee that the culture war is a distraction and if they only looked at it from a class perspective everything would be fine.
I mean, you can, but after a while it starts to suspiciously just seem like you actually agree with the fascists and the anarchocapitalists on the issues, or at least that you’re just as willing to use attackig marginalized scapegoats for your own political gain.
They’re enforcing their version of culture, a very white conservative one. “Culture war” doesn’t mean completely unserious, the consequences are very real.
It is a distraction from the root cause, they have people voting against their own self interest to make minorities suffer rather than demand better working and living conditions. It’s redirected anger wielded for their gains.
Its not the same. Those dumb MAGA animals are actively on the side of the rich. Don’t compare us to those fucking people.
See, it works
It works because you can’t squeeze water out of a rock. These meme implies that we can, as if we can recruit them onto our side.
The meme also implies that getting along still keeps you locked in. Yet how else could we achieve a better society.
I don’t know. I had always thought the internet would bring us together and shit like this would be a thing of the past. They best I got right now is to make voting mandatory
The internet has created the opportunity to come together but the internet doesn’t do the talking.
Yeah? How mad do you get over pronouns?
Honestly, I feel like getting rid of gendered pronouns is kind of woke. But unlike conservatives I understand what a pronoun is.
OPs political views and opinions are apparently shotposting worth
Culture war is class war. Radicalized right wingers are just a weapon.
They also got you posting the truth on a shitpost sub
It’s hypocritical republicans who LOUDLY incite and stoke any of the culture wars you refer to. Anyone with half a brain can see that since at least two decades ago.
Yet another reason in a very long list as to why both parties are NOT the same. But that ship has sailed, I have lost all faith in the american electorate. Stubbornly ignorant, utterly misguided voters allowed the noisy felons back in, and they will NOT give up power on good faith. All while global warming continues to ramp up. It’s too fucking late.
I really don’t understand this comment (maybe I need to go to sleep), but I don’t see OP referring to any culture war, and I can’t say Republican’s are the only ones inciting culture wars (they might be inciting the ones I disagree with, but it is a culture war to push for equal rights)
Republicans srarted the abortion bogeyman as a way to get religious people to vote for them. Before that, nobody really gave much thought to it.
They both want to distract us, cuz if we actually work together we’d overthrow thfm
Check out the most recent Red flag radio podcast episode with April, a tran activist for Rainbow Rights. They discuss how social justice is connected to economic justice, how it’s all tied up in the class earlier against capitalism.
