• MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
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    Time for Japan to dump their 1 trillion in US bonds. That’ll be worse than Pearl Harbor for them.

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    Remember that the US nuked Japan in response. So I guess he’d be ok if Iran nuked the US in response?

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      They did not nuke Japan as a response to Pearl Harbor. It was a response to Japan stupidly ignoring the Potsdam Declaration when Germany had already been defeated.

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    Its crazy how well he represents the worst of america so well. Let me tell you folks no one does it better. The best people are all saying it. Top people in fact.

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      They tell me, sir… They come to me and say, mr president you do it the best. Embodying the most tremendous and bad stuff about the US. Nobody does it like you sir…

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      I hate Trump. Fuck Trump.

      However, out of all the disgusting and ghastly shit Trump has done and said, this one is not that bad. Poor taste, sure. Racist? Come on. Did you even read it? It was actually witty compared to his typical knuckle dragging bullshit.

      A reporter asked Trump why he didn’t tell U.S. allies, including European and Asian countries, such as Japan, that he was planning joint military strikes with Israel on Iran.

      “One thing, you don’t want to signal too much when we go in,” Trump said. “We went in very hard and we didn’t tell anyone about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn’t you tell me about Pearl Harbor?”

      This guy is a sex predator, pedo who is trying to be a dictator and is taking our democratic rights away. Let’s focus on that first. Don’t let this petty bullshit be the focus.

      I’ll take my downvotes now.

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        I guess he could always do worse and joke about Hiroshima…but I wont give more ideas…

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        Yeah but this anecdote betrays his shitty personality. At the end of the day he is an unapologetic child rapist first and foremost, and it’s hard to imagine what could surpass that depravity, but these little vignettes help paint the picture who have trouble believing the commander-in-chief is also the chomo-in-chief.

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        I’m sorry but this is terrible diplomacy and diminishes America’s soft power on the world stage.

        Yes we’re moving into a multipolar world where soft power matters less but narrative building is always relevant and rubbing your allies the wrong way is just terrible strategy from any vantage point.

        Trump’s caused so much damage to Western credibity in so little time just by highlighting and widening fault lines at a records pace. This will create a vacuum that others will seek to occupy. This comment may not seem like much but it’s another little cut that will slowly bleed away America and the West’s standing in the world.

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          Has he really damaged Western credibility, or is he only damaging the USA’s credibility? I’ve not seen reports that Trump’s behaviour is impacting how others feel about Canada, France or Germany. Trump’s behaviour really only reflects on the global opinions of the USA, as other countries and their populations are generally intelligent enough to understand that he is only elected by one country; only represents one country; and is only the product of the population of one country.

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            Many Western countries follow along and act as cheerleaders for US foreign policy. Seven countries (including Canada, France and Germany) have already signed on to help secure the Strait of Hormuz which is only blocked because of yet another US misadventure.

            A lot of these countries are small and in terms of global influence would be middle powers at best if not part of a Western bloc. Trump is slowly eroding the concept of a Western bloc so the idea of collective credibility or collective values is eroding with that.

            Most of the rest of the world sees Western countries as vassals of the US and the question now is will they be able to assert their independence on the world stage or will they simply go along with the US as they often do.

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              Care to point to any reports that other nations are viewing those other Western countries poorly as a result of Trump’s actions?

              Securing the Strait of Hormuz seems to be self-interested actions by those nations; an attempt to reduce the impact of higher oil prices on their own economies. It’s a far cry from the Western world following the USA into Iraq with boots on the ground 20-odd years ago.

              Trump is eroding the idea of a USA-led Western bloc. Canada’s PM Carney is leading the charge to create new middle-power blocs to establish credibility outside of the USA’s influence. I’m yet to see reports that those measures are being viewed in a negative fashion by the rest of the world, but I’m happy to be corrected.

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                It’s a matter of perspective. The Global South has always been acutely aware of Western hypocrisy and double standards, often being the victim of its perfidiousness. It’s just that the mask seems to be coming off now so the internal contradictions are much more apparent. People like Alexander Stubbe (Finland’s president) and Mark Carney understand this. Much of what Mark Carney said in his speech at Davos are perspectives that have been shared by prominent figures in the global south for some time now. He deserves credit for sharing it in a way that is palatable to Westerners. It remains to be seen if, in the abscense of the US as a central stabilizing force, an ex-US Western bloc would be able to maintain its global credibility and influence.

                As the Global South (which makes up 80% of humanity) gains a more prominent voice on the global stage, certain internal contradictions will continue to move into the spotlight and Western credibility will be at risk of further erosion. The question is will the West be able to adapt in real time - acknowledging that the so called ‘rules based international order’ was never really a fair playing field but a tool to maintain Western hegemony - and take a leadership role in shaping the new world order.

                Stubbe explains this well from a Western perspective in his book The Triangle of Power Rebalancing the New World Order (the triangle referring to the Global West, East and South).

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      Both. He’s always been racist, but dementia removes what filters do exist.

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      Coming up with the analogy is just his regular poor taste and racism. Not realizing that it paints the US as the equivalent to the Japanese in WWII is his dementia.

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    Bro. The people coming to his defense is mind blowing. “That’s not what he meant!”, “He didn’t mean it in a racist way!” Shut the fuck up. He knows what he’s saying. He doesn’t care. The mental gymnastics his cult does for him is crazy. Just own up to it. He’s the racist pedophile Uncle who makes bad jokes at a family gathering that you wouldn’t leave your 10 year old with.

    It is what it is.

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    Interesting that Trump seems to understand that we “did a pearl harbor” on Iran, but somehow still thinks that we are the “good guys”? He almost got self aware for a second there.

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      He doesn’t believe in good guys, he thinks everyone is just as evil as him so it makes his continuous assault on all limits of human decency OK in his mind.

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        Yup, this is why his accusations are always confessions. Projection is the psychological phenomenon where you refuse to see yourself as bad, so you justify your bad actions with “everyone does bad stuff like this, so it doesn’t make me bad to do them.” But when all of your interactions are colored by that “everyone does bad stuff like this” part, it means you project those bad intentions onto others and default to assuming they’re just as bad as you are. So when he’s accusing people of bad things, it is because he has projected those intentions onto them.

        And Trump’s narcissism refuses to let him do any kind of soul-searching that may lead him to stop projecting. And thus, every accusation is an admission.

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          Most blatantly with his rambling about ‘Americans have to flush 3 times, 5 times’. I thought what the hell is wrong with the water pressure where he lives?

          Then I read that he likely flushed evidence down the toilet. Of course. HE has a problem with destroying evidence in his toilet, so ‘Americans’ have problems with their toilet. I’m not even sure if he has the ability to differentiate between his problems and anybody elses.

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          you refuse to see yourself as bad, so you justify your bad actions with “everyone does bad stuff like this”

          I’ve heard the neat phrase ‘reverse cargo cult’ in regard to such views. Applied to a group of people, though, as cults typically require.

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        Epstein was his best friend. And the horrific shit that happened in that island is so much worse than anybody seems to be willing to believe. But just raping kids, but torturing them to death as well, for a start.

        Think of the number of the parasitic “elite” he saw there. Of course he believes everyone else is evil, too. As far as he is concerned, he saw the proof of it. In their world, that kind of horrid vile behavior is, in fact, normal.

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        He learned that from Putin. The difference is that Putin is well aware he’s the most evil.

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      If you assume he thinks of himself as Nazi Germany it makes more sense.

      Japan didn’t notify Hitler of the planned attack.

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      I mean, you can do a pre-emptive surprise strike against a foreign military and still be the “good guys”. It’s just that we aren’t the good guys when we did this pre-emptive military strike against a foreign military… Or grade school girls… Because our top military brass has been replaced by retards loyal to trump.

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        Everybody is the hero in their own story. Incidentally, this is something Maga do not understand; they honestly believe everyone else just wants them to fail, that we all know we’re wrong and trying to take them down, anyway. For them, we all actively chose evil.

        But, my point is “good guy” is inherently subjective. But that means you cannot preemptively strike and not be the villain, as well.

        There is no “good guy” in the theater of war, though; to be involved is to be as evil as everyone else there.

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        Name one good guy that did a “pre-emptive” (whatever that means in this context, because Iran for sure wouldn’t have attacked the US) strike against a foreign military.

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      Not to worry. He’s going to be SLAMMED for this. Perhaps even someone will BLAST him. And since journalism is literal Pokémon moves now he might even be CONFUSED or HYPNOTIZED

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      Or even just 9 months ago, when he told the leader of Germany that D-Day “was not a pleasant day for you.”

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      He’s a sociopath, no two ways about it. I remember a story his nephew told about bringing his developmentally disabled son (can’t remember the exact condition) to the White House and having multiple meetings with Trump about setting up a bill that would benefit Americans, including his own great-nephew. In one of those meetings, after it had all seemed positive, everyone left the room but Trump and his nephew, to whom Trump immediately said “be a lot easier and less expensive if all these disabled kids would just die”.

      Sauce

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        The disabled were one of the first groups rounded up by the Nazis in concentration camps.

        The US is building a lot of concentration camps. It’ll probably be fine.

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      Japan has been known to fire/jail their PMs so she might be pushed to do something like sell-off their US bonds.

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    Americans must be so proud of their commander in chief. Well at least 40% still are. That’s all you need to know about the United States. In regards to the world, you lost all respect and trust that took 80 years to built. If any other foreign leader would use this language, he would be in a white padded cell within hours.

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      I actually think someone like trump could exist in more countries than we are willing to acknowledge. He plays terribly as someone else’s leader, but as your own leader, people seem to love the jingoism, bravado, and shamelessness in a lot of countries.

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        People like him do exist in other countries. But without a cult of personality they don’t really achieve very much, and no one can do cults like the US.

        The MEGA equivalents in other countries are actually having a bit of a problem because everyone can see a live demonstration of what their policies would actually look like, and no one likes it.

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          That’s basically what happened in Australia’s last election. The Liberals were trying to play up culture war shit & wanted to emulate DOGE, and it backfired hard. I was waiting to lock up a polling place for the night in Western Australia which is a couple of hours behind the eastern states, by the time they’d finished packing up the votes to be counted it was already so lopsided that even if every remaining vote was Liberal it wouldn’t have mattered.

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        Indeed they do but in other countries there are mechanisms in place to ensure you don’t get a cosplay dictator. In the Netherlands, Wilders was elected who is a Trump wannabe, but thanks for the proper democratic system in the Netherlands, he was severely limited in what crazy shit he wanted to do. Obviously the government collapsed and now they have a much more middle of the road government, which means more will get done. It is about checks and balances but Trump does whatever he wants and no one stops him.

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          Yeah the executive has been out of control here for decades, it just took trump to make that obvious.