For me the shape of water was the worst film I’ve ever seen because the whole story was just so weird and ridiculous… An alien and a woman getting together.

The worst part about it is that critics at the time were praising the film…

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    Shape of Water? Really?

    I know the top comments are bringing the usual boring answers, but man, I’ll take them over pretending that is anywhere close to being bad. There’s way too much shit out there worth recognizing, like, the latest stinker is Five Nights at Freddy’s.

    If someone wants a bottom 30 contender, I suggest looking up A Fish Called Wanda. It has two jokes: Long winded rants and Homophobia. Laugh. I made the delivery better.

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    What a take, wow. Is it just the idea of a strangely attractive fishman and a human falling in love that makes you feel so strongly against SoW?

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    The thing is that you kind of have to define “worst” and “film” in order for the answer to make sense.

    Like, you’ve got movies like the 2019 Cats where it was a pervasively horrible movie in multiple different ways, but it was absolutely not boring, and I kind of think everyone should see it. See also The Super Mario Brothers Movie with Bob Hoskins, or Star Crash from 1978.

    And then you’ve got things that barely qualify as movies. Things like Manos: The Hands of Fate, or Troll 2, or Death Bed: The Bed That Eats, where, yeah, they hired actors and a director said “Action!” but… like…is it really a movie?

    There’s different categories for bad movies. There’s “Mainstream Piece of Shit that Should Have Been Better,” there’s “Insane Microbudget Fever Dream,” there’s an axis from Boring to Glorious Trainwreck. All of these complicate the question and merit their own consideration.

    All that said… it’s the Star Wars Holiday Special. It’s a totally fucking brutal experience. There is virtually no good reason to ever watch it, except to say that you have, and I don’t necessarily think it’s worth the time. It’s irredeemable.

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      Well, I don’t think Carrie Fisher was wearing a bra during her brief apperance in the Star Wars special, so that was something.

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        A foreshadowing of the conflict she had with them, it’s a shame one would eventually strangle her to death.

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      Even when discussing bad movies I’ve never seen someone else mention Death Bed before, it’s really bad! At least it has some humor and a lot of wierdness to it. The worst I’ve ever seen that just feels like lost time is Ax 'em / The Weekend it Lives. You basically can’t see or hear what’s going on most of the time because the camera work is so bad

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    The Last Airbender.

    But to be honest, I never actually made it all the way through the whole movie. It butchers its source content so severely that it is honestly infuriating to watch.

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      This was the Dragon ball movie for me for the exact same reasons. It wasn’t even fun bad. It was boring bad.

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        My cousin made me watch that recently. He said it was his favorite movie to hate watch.

        I disagree. It was just a bad movie.

        I did my best to watch that movie with eyes that had no idea about the dragon Ball franchise and it was so full of obvious, poorly executed tropes that it hurt to watch and then, when you compare that to the actual dragon Ball series it gets so much worse.

        They had volumes of story and mythos to pull from and they botched it into an unwatchable and tired mess.

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      I’m convinced he made it badly on purpose so he wouldn’t have to make the other two.

      There is no other explanation for the earth bender scene.

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    avatar 2. a monkey with chatgpt could have written a better script.

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      I came here to say this too. We couldn’t even watch it after about an hour. Just fucking shut it off and have no desire to finish it

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        I did the same, except I was in a theater, so I walked out. As soon as the beginning of the movie where the humans return and occupy Pandora after a “two years later” hand wave I just knew it was somehow going to be worse than the first, which was passably decent and pretty.

        Like, preventing the humans from occupying the planet was the entire pivotal conflict of the first film, and they just failed to prevent it again in the second one, and it was completely glossed over. All my brain could see was “we want to draw this shit out for a franchise, so the humans are just here now”.

        Then the remainder of the film was just feckin boring and shallow, albeit pretty, but not pretty enough for three feckin hours, maybe it had a killer ending, I do not know

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          Yeah it was impossible to care about anyone or anything going on. Basically just “time warp, humans are so ingrained they grew their own evil blue people, oh and the generals alive again sort of, and he kidnaps people, better fight!”

          Fucking ridiculous

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      That was so boring. I bought it on iTunes. Watched maybe an hour. Have had it available offline for several long haul flights and trips. Still can’t be bothered to finish it.

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    Probably the Eragon movie. Watched that one in the cinema as a kid. A terrible adaptation that doesn’t do the source material justice in any way.

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    The Room (2003)

    Have you ever listened to someone complaining about how their ex mistreated them? The whining, the self-pity, the one-sidedness?

    That’s The Room. Written, directed, produced, and starring the guy that’s complaining.

    There’s another, much better movie called Disaster Artist that explains how The Room ever got made in the first place.

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      The Room is one of those movies that goes so far round the bend that it comes back round again. It’s so godawful that it becomes it’s own flavor of tragicomically terrible that is, in a way, kinda great.

      It’s definitely in my “bad movies and booze night” rotation. XD

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      That’s what captivated me about The Room, it’s an unfiltered view into the mind of an insecure, narcissistic man-child. It frequently and inadvertently borders on comedy, sure, but I mostly found it pretty uncomfortable.

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      The Room is better that The Disaster Artist. The first is made with love and caring, is so bad but is good. The second is just pretentious shit.

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    I don’t know how you walked away from The Shape of Water with such a shallow reading, but eh, not everyone’s taste in films is the same.

    I have a great dislike for the sorts of horror films where horror is conveyed entirely by long drawn out tension into a jumpscare. It bores me and then I stop caring about what’s going on in the film. The Woman in Black is one that immediately springs to my mind, ironically because of how bland I thought it was. It’s what you’d get if you told chatGPT to write the script for a horror movie. Just a bloke stumbling 'round a house at night being scared by random shit punctuated by daytime exposition scenes. I know it was trying to trying to say something about grief but I just couldn’t care enough about it after the spooky violin lead up to the protagonist being startled by a tap making a loud noise when he turned it on.

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        As intended. It was the punchline.

        His greatest talent is making people forget he has talents. He was in a variety of bands in high school. He is a half-decent freestyle rapper. He had a significant career in off-the-wall broadcasting and swung that into a massive show on MTV. If you looked at young-adult cable circa 2000, the pillars of the zeitgeist were wrestling, South Park, and this fuckin’ guy.

        Sacha Baron Cohen disguises himself physically so nobody sees him coming. When he shows up as himself, or as a character people already know, he can’t catch them off-guard with what a clever asshole he is.

        Tom Green’s disguise is being Tom Green. Showing up as himself is what disarms people. It’s played-up, I’m sure, but it’s not a character or a bit. He is genuinely a high-powered maniac. Like a class clown who’s genuinely good at stuff. The boy who can do a pull-up just fine, but thinks it’d be funnier to struggle, and figures the longer he does it the funnier it gets. People with passing familiarity know that he acts like an idiot… but they don’t know why he acts like an idiot.

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      I feel like the director knew exactly what type of movie he was making too. As bad as it was, I always crack up thinking about “Daddy would you like some sausage?”

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      i dont understand why people dislike that movie so much. from what i vaguely remember, it was stupid, but not bad. it wasnt the prestige or that other one, the one with the dreams and the BWAAAAAAAAAM.

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    The Shape of Water is a movie made by a guy obsessed with old movies. If you’re not into the aesthetic of old monster movies and old movie musicals, I can see why you wouldn’t enjoy it much.

    I thought Ready Player One was pretty bad, especially considering that it had a large budget and an incredibly experienced director at the helm. The source material was just too sparse to pull out anything besides soypoint-1 soypoint-2

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      I tried to read the book. Made it about 50 pages before I DNF’d. The protagonist is just such a snobby condescending little shit. He whines about being ostracized and bullied but he constantly talks down to everyone at every opportunity. It felt like a power fantasy for the people who think other people don’t like them because they’re nerds, but really it’s because they’re just assholes.

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          The movie adds in a fundamental misunderstanding

          The movie had blue curtained takes on the already blue curtained takes of the book. It was at its roots a masturbatory power fantasy of treat consumption and nothing more.

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      Ready Player One was ridiculously overhyped.

      It ultimately permanently dates itself by pushing the media from the authors youth as the most important media in history and far more memorable than anything that came after. The author cannot imagine anything better and chooses not to.

      Like the Fallout series it suffers from an “end of history” trope where society, culture, and art become static and unmoving, moored in a certain aesthetic and time period, despite time firmly marching on.

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        I feel like if you’re the kind of person that likes Scott Pilgrim versus the world then you probably would have not hated ready player One.

        There’s like a very specific window of people that the entire story appeals to and if you’re not inside of that window then you’re shit out of luck.

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          Arguably, it should have appealed to me. Ernest Cline is barely 10 years my senior and loved most of the same things I did. I’m just not such a self-important schmuck that I think that means it’s the best art in history.

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    The Room by Tommy Wiseau. I know it’s like a cult classic for being bad, but the first time I watched it, I made sure to view it as unironically as possible. It’s an atrocious movie for what a movie should be.

    If you want to watch something cringy and terrible to mock and laugh at, this movie is so much better. But if you watch this movie wanting it to be a proper movie that took itself seriously (which was its original intention) it is fucking terrible.

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      If anything it is unironically a psychological study into Tommy Wiseau ego, as he did the directing, writing and producing (and acting). It tells us more about his view of the world than any biography could ever.

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        And technically competent! A detail you take for granted, unless you’ve watched absolute trash made by complete amateurs. The Room took off because it is professional garbage. You can clearly see and hear all of the stupidity.

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    Ghost in the Shell live action, or any other “Americans are too uncultured to watch foreign cinema, so we need to dumb it down with a remake (starring only white people)” movie.

    I can understand people not wanting to read subtitles (though I’ll personally take subs any day over a bad dub) but remakes of foreign movies just make no sense to me.

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      The only remake of a foreign classic that I like is Sweet Charity. Bob Fosse took a serious drama by Fellini and turned it into an absurd musical comedy. WTF, but… it’s GREAT!

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    Hellbinders (2009). It’s a movie in which a soulless Action hero, a ninja warrior priest and Cain, the biblical son of Adam team up to battle a horde of demon-possessed ninjas.

    It’s a low-budget movie where the script was written by three stuntmen, that was directed by three stuntmen and the whole cast is also stuntmen. The VFX look like the people responsible for effects and cutting where also stuntmen.

    The film was made to prove that stuntmen can do everything the other people in the crew usually do, and all it does is proving that there’s a reason stuntmen usually only do stunts.

    It’s so bad that it’s involuntarily funny.