If there’s one thing I know about the situation, a LOT of people who otherwise haven’t bothered are scrambling to download yuzu, if for any other reason to say fuck Nintendo.
It’s me, I’m people.
Streisand effect for me. Never heard of this project until Nintendo caused a fuss.
Me too. I’ve never cared for Switch games, I don’t even have a console, but now I’m discovering many gems on my computer.
Both of my roommates own a switch and I’m welcome to use them. If I’m gonna play, I’ll just use those. Still, I’m people.
same
Wait what, there is a Nintendo switch emulator out there called Yuzu? Thanks Nintendo!
It’d be pretty great if an entire generation referred to this phenomenon as the Nintendo Yuzu Effect instead of the Streisand Effect. Or maybe the YouTube Adblock Effect? These companies keep accidentally telling everybody about shit that is relatively unknown yet universally desired in order to not have to pay exploitative prices. Even early Switch games are still fucking impossible to find for less than their launch price. And actually, now that I think about it, the MSRP of the Switch itself still hasn’t dropped either. It costs just as much today as it did 7 goddamn years ago to legally buy a Switch, BotW, and Mario Odyssey. Nintendo’s greed is the reason Switch piracy was ever big enough to be worth chasing, and now chasing it will cause an even bigger boom in it. Well, that and their shitty controllers. I don’t blame anybody for wanting to play BotW with an Xbox controller on their last-gen PC.
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True, but nobody born after 9/11 knows who the fuck Barbra Streisand even is, so they definitely don’t know the story.
Which adds to the point: even though no one knows who she is anymore or about her giant beachfront mansion she tried to have removed from the Internet, her name lives on in infamy
Damn. Nevermind, you just appealed to my petty side. I can clearly see now that I was wrong haha.
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Maybe they know this banger and think she’s a song? 🤷
Lol people born after 9/11 were <9 when this song came out.
Fair, but they still could have heard it on the radio while their parents were driving them to hockey practice or welding seminars or whatever 9yos did back then 🤷
It’s getting pulled down basically everywhere so you’re going to have to find some smaller communities or individuals to get your hands on it now. That’s the real annoying part here lol
That’s my Nintendo, always forcing me out of my comfort zone to discover cool, niche new communities to enhance my piracy know-how! Thanks, Nintendo!
The code itself is not illegal, so hosting it is fine.
Just dont encourage piracy, like at all. No linking, no support, and certainly not patching for games which didnt come out yet and offering these fixes early for payment.Yeah, there’s totally not Mirrors around with the original source code that got pulled, and the entire internet having collectively archived it before Yuzu itself pulled the plug
Also it was the only Switch emulator in existence, there totally isn’t another emulator going around
Also you totally should not follow what I said here, y’know, emulation is wrong after all according to Nintendo
There is a copy/fork of it already called nuzu
Turns out it was just a 14 year old who cloned everything and hadn’t commited any code to GitHub in the past year. Suyu is the new wave now.
And if they kill that, it’s miizu. Then wezu. Then nouzu.
Not anymore
Looks like it’s still available through a mirror.
Imma just put this here, totally unrelated thing
Also, in a totally unrelated note, y’all should check out this project, I find it really cool
Nintendo basically sent out a press release saying “Its super easy to pirate our games!”. This is really only positive for them if no other projects show up.
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Shhh
My speculation is that their main goal was to thwart the teams potential efforts emulating the next Nintendo console. It is likely going to be close enough to the switch that the same team will have an easy time emulating it. Not anymore.
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You get a steamdeck.
With a cleaver and buy a steam deck instead
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You’re allowed a pc and a steam deck. There’s no law against both.
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One thing of note with the Steam Deck is that it CAN stream games from your PC, allowing you access to your whole library. You get access to fewer games in SteamOS (there’s still a ton). You can always look up what games are natively compatible with Steam Deck before you buy. The big ticket games are usually compatible nowadays (Starfield was markedly absent, but BG3 is there all-the-way).
You might be thinking of the Steam Link
I think you’re thinking of the Steam Link.
The Steam Deck can stream games from your PC, but it is a perfectly capable standalone gaming device.
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Also, the steam deck has a desktop mode that allows it to act like a PC
That is not the case. It’s a standalone device that you can play pc games on. It is very similar to the switch in design, but able to play a whole lot more. You should definitely look into it.
Alas, the only easily hackable Switch’s were made until about a year after release. To hack modern ones requires a special mod chip that isn’t easily soldered on.
Nintendo unfortunately did a good job on hack proofing the Switch.But you say its still possible?
Yes, and with literally every other console over time it will get easier and easier
I haven’t looked into the details myself since I got lucky with my used Switch. But, yeah, it should still be possible.
Yes, but you need a modchip and some knowhow. Or you find a guy
Get a hammer and smash the fuck out of it.
So they’ll stop giving frequent updates to the software huh? That’ll make it easier to pirate.
Fuck Nintendo, first year I won’t be celebrating March 10th #FreeBowser
So, if I was to download this, I could play all the Switch games? Sounds fun. I definitly wouldnt do it, I have too much respect for Nintendo, but if I had do it, what games do people would recommend, for example? I just want to bring awarNES on this.
I’m playing the Super Mario RPG remake now.
I never played it, or really any JRPG before (at least not very much). I gotta say I’m really enjoying it.
Copied from another post I made
Mario + rabbids, pokemon legends, zelda:BOTW/TOTK (pick one they’re both pretty similar and have their pros/cons), Mario Wonder, Mario Odyssey, Pikmin 4, Cadence of Hyrule (zelda spin-off of crypt of the necrodancer), zelda:links awakening remake, Mario rpg remake, and Bayonetta 2 (can also play on wii u emulator, 3 isn’t as good)
Would you believe that 2 days ago I didn’t know this was a thing, and now, I have the software and a list of great games to play? Now I know, and I’m gonna have to make sure as many people as possible are aware of this. I think I’ll make a document with simple download links, so people can make sure to block this content.
I’ve heard Super Mario Wonder is fantastic and may just run great on Steam Deck.
I really like breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom.
Thanks. So, someone with a Steamdeck who would like to hurt Nintendo could play it just like that… Kind of crazy when you think about it.
Not just play it, but play it better than on a switch. The games run better and can run at higher resolutions
Lol. I can’t believe this so I will try it just to make sure you’re wrong. But if it’s true… more people need to know about it.
So BotW can play pretty well on Steam Deck now, TOTK on the other hand… it’s a mixed bag. Requires a lot of tweaking and even then you’ll see dips into the 20s for FPS and the occasional stutter. It’s playable, just not smooth. That said, the OG switch only performs just marginally better with the OLED Switch being the best of the three.
This is also coming from someone who has done a lot of tweaking for ToTK to make it work to a satisfactory level. There may have been some further developments in the past couple months, I haven’t tried since the start of the year
Having played TOTK on both the deck and on a bigger brother Linux desktop, it’s for sure better on a machine that can has a reasonable, dedicated GPU. It’s passable on the deck, enjoyable on the desktop.
Open source projects do not grow by themselves. It requires serious effort from dedicated developers to develop and maintain applications as complicated as an emulator. Yuzu’s developers are banned from doing so and I don’t see how this incident could help bringing more developers.
I’m sure there will be developers capable enough to keep it working on new operating systems. Games that worked with it until now will keep on working, and that’s what matters to most people anyways. No need for major changes to the codebase.
I truly admire the optimism but I think it’s also important to understand the hard work and dedication that the Yuzu developers put in.
You’re correct that someone probably will fork it and development will continue but it is not simple and it requires a very specialized skill set.
I just think it’s important to never take for granted the people who take time out of their lives to give the community something so wonderful.
I don’t think it’s diminishing the work of the Yuzu devs, but more so a strong belief in the capabilities of the open source community. They worked their asses off and are extremely talented, and I’m sure there are others who will hop in and carry the torch.
I’m also curious if there’s a programmatic way to circumvent the argument Nintendo made about bypassing DMCA by separating the emulator from the code that utilizes the keys such that you can use tool A to bypass DMCA, and tool B (Yuzu with game decryption removed) to run the circumvented game. In this case tool A already exists, and tool B could be a fork of Yuzu.
What do you mean with they are banned? Who’s gonna stop them from contributing to one of the many Yuzu forks? What are they gonna do about it?
A permanent injunction is entered against Defendant enjoining it and its members, agents, servants, employees, independent contractors, successors, assigns, and all those acting in privity or under its control from:
a. Offering to the public, providing, marketing, advertising, promoting, selling, testing, hosting, cloning, distributing, or otherwise trafficking in Yuzu or any source code or features of Yuzu
IANAL but that sounds like the court is banning those developers from working on Yuzu. I mean, you can still try to work on project that is 90% Yuzu but with another name but I feel like your lawyer would advise against that.
this doesn’t apply to hundreds of their contributors tho right
What if I told you that throwing more developers at a problem != that problem getting solved faster?
While it’s weird that they waited so long, emulating Nintendo systems is nothing new. We used to emulate SNES in the late 90s. Nintendo has generally always been the first and last name in quality single player gaming experiences, and their games are always in high demand. There will always be a contingent of people dedicated to emulating Nintendo systems, no matter what Barbara Streisand has to say about the matter.
While it’s weird that they waited so long,
I think they are afraid emulation on steam deck gains traction.
Since it runs Linux, you could install and run Nintendo games on a competitor portable console that has a lot more games and a more powerful hardware
That’s not the reason, you have been able to do so for a while. Even longer if you count Breath of the Wild (which ran with the Wii U emulator). The only reason they got their shit kicked in by Nintendo is greed. Patreon + extra money for early access + wanting to create their own paid copy of Nintendo’s online service + timing their press releases with Nintendo releases…
Emulators are legal. Fully intending to profit from creating a competing product isn’t. That’s why they also gave in so quickly when the lawyers showed up, despite having plenty of money to afford defense.
“while it’s weird that they waited so long”
My conspiracy theory is that the Switch 2 is going to operate on the same architecture, but have better hardware. My guess is for backwards compatabiliy. This means that on launch day, Yuzu was likely still going to be the best way to play Switch 2 games. Basically it’s a threat to a console that isn’t even out yet. Just a theory.
Is that last line a Duck sauce reference?
Please elaborate while I find some popcorn.
Not the content I deserve, but the content I needed.
We used to emulate SNES in the late 90s
And NES as well. Thanks Shitman!
Ah yes. I remember. 1997, I was 12, I had my own computer, and I’d be in my room all day just playing with my NESticle. And then, a little later, pNES.
And even their worst accusations are ‘It cost five percent of our biggest game’s revenue! It was only a record-breaking success!’
It’s a shame about Yuzu. Have you heard about this new emulator called Nuzu?
This aged like milk.
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“Sue you” lmao
Don’t forget about it’s inevitable fork “suye”.
Jokes on Nintendo, my next handheld is most likely still going to be a steam deck (clone?). The only difference now is I won’t buy a physical game and emulate their games on it by (downloading) a backup.
I’m not proud of it but I’ve pirated games when I was a kid, but I bought every game I pirated if I could get it on modern hardware. Even the mediocre games like Minecraft.
It’s tempting as a kid when your parents gets you an Xbox but never got any games for it, eventually you wanna play more than demos. They got duke nukem forever with the xbox and as a kid I preferred the pack in game of Kinect adventures over it.
Tbh, is it really pirating if I bought the game and wanted to play it on a different unofficial platform?
I understand the main thing was Yuzu was apparently offering builds that work with unreleased games (which how tf does that work) via Patreon, but if the game’s been released and I bought it, I don’t see why I shouldn’t be able to download a ROM or even dump my own and play it on an emulator that offers better performance.
I understand the main thing was Yuzu was apparently offering builds that work with unreleased games (which how tf does that work)
Leaks and breaking release date is how it works.
The formal answer - it is against the law and the terms and conditions of their released software. The moral answer - no problem.
Yeah, fighting open source emulators is kind of like fighting a hydra. People will fork the project and one of those will probably emerge as the alternative to Ryujinx. At the same time Nintendo did manage to get an entire team of developers to exit the Switch emulation scene under penalty of breaching the settlement. It’s not going to kill Switch emulation, but they did manage to take down one of the most popular ones.
